Rei has saris at 25 percent off and coupon for 20 percent off regular price item so this would make kickr core about same $$$. I know wahoo had some issues with kickr core last year, hopefully all those have been addressed. Looking for input on these two for same amount of $$$
I’m also curious on this…
I’m considering going from a Computrainer to a new Direct Drive Trainer. The CT works fine and has been an absolute tank since…2004 (damn I’m old).
My biggest concern is having it break after 2 years of use.
I just tried to see the end price and the 20% off code wouldn’t work on the trainer.
Just logged into REI website and coupon they sent me works fine, took 20 percent off wahoo core.
Sorry I thought you meant an additional 20% off the Saris. Scanning instead of reading…
I put the Saris H3 at the top of my trainer list.
this could tip the balance and make me invest in a direct drive trainer.
can’t decide if i dislike indoor training because my wheel-on trainer smart-trainer sucks the fun out of it, or i will dislike it no matter what set-up i have.
I have the original Hammer and it still runs like new after exclusively training on it for IMs for the past 2 years. It’s a tank and I expect most units will last far longer than 2 years even with serious riding mileage
Bump because I’d be interested in this as well. Seems like DC Rainmaker considers the Saris H3 in a higher “tier” of trainers than the core (competing against the Kickr and Neo), so it’s interesting that it’s only $30 more with the ongoing sales than the Core.
I don’t anticipate myself ever purchasing the Climb, so does anybody know if there’s any other advantage the Core has over the H3?
The H3 is $600 @ clever training with vip membership.
Looks like they fixed their mistake. I have vip and can’t get price lower than $750
Just wondering, does the H3 still have issues with power accuracy at higher flywheel speeds? Or has this been fixed with a firmware update? If it still has the issue, doesn’t that defeat the purpose of having a nice big flywheel?
Just wondering, does the H3 still have issues with power accuracy at higher flywheel speeds? Or has this been fixed with a firmware update? If it still has the issue, doesn’t that defeat the purpose of having a nice big flywheel?
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Just wondering, does the H3 still have issues with power accuracy at higher flywheel speeds? Or has this been fixed with a firmware update? If it still has the issue, doesn’t that defeat the purpose of having a nice big flywheel?
At least from DCR’s review, accuracy was very good for H3 across the board. I think it was earlier versions of this unit that had that problem. He did find problems with cadence, the latest firmware claims cadence improvement but I’ve not verified it.
my h3…power seems to vary depending on cadence and power level vs the quarq I compare it to. most noticeable when grade shifts and then get a rather high power number momentarily. seems at lower end of my power range(low 200s) the h3 seems to read high vs at 270+ where it seems to read a tad low(as expected with drivetrain losses) in general, good enough for my use. I am on unit #2 as first one started to sound like a hammer after 3rd ride. not sure why I always manage to find the bad one no matter what I buy
If you’re ok with a reconditioned Kickr Core, they’re going for $550 on Wahoo’s site for Black Friday. Might sway your decision that way.
Thanks. I’m actually returning a Core, and just ordered the H3 at a decent discount. Fingers crossed it works well.
Just wondering, does the H3 still have issues with power accuracy at higher flywheel speeds? Or has this been fixed with a firmware update? If it still has the issue, doesn’t that defeat the purpose of having a nice big flywheel?
Lama Lab Test results as at Nov 8th 2019.
Data: https://analyze.dcrainmaker.com/#/public/e93ad0ad-dbbb-4477-651c-29c53cf17fa2
Observations:
AssiomaDUO | QuarqDZero | H3 (all latest firmware)
Notes:
- H3 ~10W low in simulated gradient efforts. 7:50-9:50, 42:50 - 43:23.
- ERG Flywheel tests at 225W 90rpm (stepping through gears) indicates issues with the H3 at flywheel speeds >50km/h. 48:10-48:45
- Still major issues with cadence in SIM mode with frequent gradient changes.
In short, the issues I encountered with power/accuracy of the H3 still exist as of the latest public firmware on Nov 8th.
There is a beta firmware that’s said to improve power at higher flywheel speeds and the cadence issue. If they can address those then it’ll go a long way in making this trainer a good buy. I’ll perform another test with this fw when I have the chance.
Just wondering, does the H3 still have issues with power accuracy at higher flywheel speeds? Or has this been fixed with a firmware update? If it still has the issue, doesn’t that defeat the purpose of having a nice big flywheel?
Lama Lab Test results as at Nov 8th 2019.
Data: https://analyze.dcrainmaker.com/...77-651c-29c53cf17fa2
Observations:
AssiomaDUO | QuarqDZero | H3 (all latest firmware)
Notes:
- H3 ~10W low in simulated gradient efforts. 7:50-9:50, 42:50 - 43:23.
- ERG Flywheel tests at 225W 90rpm (stepping through gears) indicates issues with the H3 at flywheel speeds >50km/h. 48:10-48:45
- Still major issues with cadence in SIM mode with frequent gradient changes.
In short, the issues I encountered with power/accuracy of the H3 still exist as of the latest public firmware on Nov 8th.
There is a beta firmware that’s said to improve power at higher flywheel speeds and the cadence issue. If they can address those then it’ll go a long way in making this trainer a good buy. I’ll perform another test with this fw when I have the chance.
Our Zwift team, Indoor Specialist, is working closely with Saris utilizing a ton of different power meters (our team has just about every type of PM to compare to). Largely focused on racing and sim-mode on the Saris H3. I think you’ll find the most recent firmware update to be better than your Nov 8th testing as far power over 50km/h flywheel speeds goes. However, we’re still seeing ~3% over-reading on big-gear sprints.
My most recent comparison file: SRM / Powertap P1 / Saris H3 comparison
Considering the history of the Hammer (version 1 early firmware especially), the H3’s accuracy is nearing the pointy end for high-end smart trainers at a significantly lower price than competitors. Hopefully the cadence issues in Sim mode and the over-reading in sprints will improve with some more refinement this winter. We’ll be working closely with Saris to make sure that happens!