Frodo posted this pic to his twitter. He averaged 372 watts for 67 minutes. Based on his weight and this chart that puts his effort at 5.0 which is considered CAT 1 or even a low level domestic pro. I’m impressed. Just a general FYI to all
Not bad from an a bad cyclist
ITU cycling maybe looks easy on TV, but I believe it is harder than its getting credit for.
I’m guessing that’s without zeros.
i’m a total novice when it comes to power, but doesnt a 35km avg seem low w/ that kind of wattage?
wait - i thought slowtwitch had already agreed that those ITU guys can’t actually bike?
-mike
It is a hilly course, 8 loops with three climbs on each loop, so that would bring down the average speed for sure.
If that is non-zero power it is skewed upward by a lot of gliding in the pack and down the hill.
I’m guessing that’s without zeros.
Could be, but it would not be unusual for a pro triathlete to be able to do 370ish for an hour.
Rapp can do ~380
I can do even more in my dreams
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I can do even more in my dreams
I’m dreaming of doing 300
it just…might…happen
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I was wondering the same thing. The course profile (available here) is, as dale3 said above, fairly hilly (about 100 vertical meters per 5km lap), in addition to a number of 90° corners and 180° turnarounds. This explains the the 36-37km/h average speed for the whole pack. But, for that sort of wattage, he must have dragged an open parachute behind him. I weight about the same, and on a circuit race with this sort of elevation gain (and turn arounds, etc), need some hundred-odd watts less to go the same speed.
I say it’s probably without zeros: on such courses, you’re typically just accelerating out of corners or grinding up the hills, with a lot of coasting elsewhere - thus skewing the numbers quite a bit.
Hold on there. Sure, a pro can push 350-380 W for an hour - in a steady-state effort. Now, NP in an hour-long, hilly crit-style course could well be also in this range. But AP? 250-300-ish, tops.
Now, mandatory reference:
know one thing for a fact…no one posts their true weight on the internet.
(my version reads, “no one posts their true power on the internet”)
From this thread (see this one for more).
That’s definitely without zeros.
I’m guessing that’s without zeros.
Could be, but it would not be unusual for a pro triathlete to be able to do 370ish for an hour.
Rapp can do ~380
I saw that when Jan posted it. I’d be shocked if that is including zeros. ITU races are pack races. It’s not a straight up TT. And he had to run really fast afterwards (which he did). And swam hard before.
Since I’d guess he was pretty much either riding really easy or riding at the front, I can see why he’d want to have his computer display non-zero power.
I can also totally imagine showing non-zero power because it’s the sort of thing that gets people talking, whereas an average power of ~300-330w would not.
I did 385 for an all out TT for 30min in the build up to Kona last year. When I finished that, I threw up on the side of the road. That was at 70-71kg… I would never pull that off DURING a race.
If he is good at cornering it won’t change the AP that much.
Hold on there. Sure, a pro can push 350-380 W for an hour - in a steady-state effort. Now, NP in an hour-long, hilly crit-style course could well be also in this range. But AP? 250-300-ish, tops.
Now, mandatory reference:
know one thing for a fact…no one posts their true weight on the internet.
(my version reads, “no one posts their true power on the internet”)
From this thread (see this one for more).
Man, add a pro to the list of people displaying avg without zeros power on their head units!
That just wrong, always and forever!
Watts is just a number. 36km avg is what you do in kindergarden.
He did get a flat during the race so he did ride pretty hard to come back on the front pack. He did one lap in 7:50 (6th lap). For comparaison the fastest lap from the front pack was 8:02 (Gomez was pushing the pace).
For sure Frodeno did push more watt than what he used to. It also explain his average running.
I can do even more in my dreams
I’m dreaming of doing 300
it just…might…happen
same
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Watts is just a number. 36km avg is what you do in kindergarden.
Not true. I didn’t start averaging numbers until I was at least in the third or fourth grade.