Jan Frodeno Nice

Im not on social media so thought i’d try here. Has they been any factual information regarding Jans disappointing performance in Nice?

What do you mean by factual?
He ripped his trisuit in T1 and dropped a bottle of nutrition early in the bike.
During the run he stopped to kiss and hug his family. He also stopped to cheer other athletes, including Sam Laidlow.
In a video interview after the race he seemed to imply it simply wasn’t his day, something along the lines of that he entered the arena and was eaten by the lions.
I mean, does he have to say anything more after all he’s won?

Thanks for the reply. He can say whatever he wants. By factual i mean more specific to why his performance was not what he expected and hoped for, that was to win! Im curious how someone of his attention to detail, training, logistics etc and who claimed pre race that he was ready to win and seemed confident. Just a bad day ,well i know that. Rip in his tri suit, ok. I read somewhere of a possible achilles issue?

The PTN guys were talking before the race that he might not even line up. Something was definitely going on and post race they did say it was achilles related. There seems to be more to it than it just being a bad day.

What happened to Skipper while we’re on the subject of disappointing performances? Checked a few days ago and he’d still not put anything up on social media.

What I mean is that if he were to address the causes explicitly there would be a risk it might be seen as excuses or, worse, belittling the performance of the other athletes.

What happened to Skipper while we’re on the subject of disappointing performances? Checked a few days ago and he’d still not put anything up on social media.

I’d love to know this as well, not seen anything. Biggest mystery from the race.

Regarding Frodeno, he told the German TV camera during the bike it wasn’t his day. He made a similar quote as in the finish line interviews: the gladiator is being defeated in his arena.

What happened to Skipper while we’re on the subject of disappointing performances? Checked a few days ago and he’d still not put anything up on social media.

Skipper, I believe became detached from the early swim pack almost immediately and spent the swim on his own, eventually coming in 5+ minutes from leaders. There were a few shots of him swimming alone through the swim portion.

Though why he became detached, or what happened on the bike/run I’m not sure.

He had some “equipment problems on the bike, not with the bike”, according to Tim Ford on the Talking Triathlon formerly MX Endurance podcast https://podcasts.apple.com/...&i=1000627984016

Ford was deliberately vague on what it was.

Then Skipper felt like crap on the run and spent 25 minutes sitting down, then picked himself up, then had those gyrations with feeling better or worse.

Skipper just posted an update on his instagram. Basically says he’s not sure why but was off all day.

Thank you and thanks for the link. Will download it now. There’s almost no information! That’s a surprise for a favourite.

Happy to help (the episode is worth a listen for a bunch of reasons), and here’s an addendum from Joel Filliol about no athlete in particular, and Joel says “inspiration comes from everywhere ;-)” when asked if it’s about Skipper 😂

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Happy to help (the episode is worth a listen for a bunch of reasons), and here’s an addendum from Joel Filliol about no athlete in particular, and Joel says “inspiration can come from anywhere ;-)” when asked if it’s about Skipper 😂

Joel probably listened to the “why you don’t need a coach” episode with Joe and Mark
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bwahahaha coaches around the world are like “karma, beeeatch!”!

But it was a pretty innocent episode about coaches who practice copying and pasting. What percentage of coaches do it is up for debate.

Happy to help (the episode is worth a listen for a bunch of reasons), and here’s an addendum from Joel Filliol about no athlete in particular, and Joel says “inspiration comes from everywhere ;-)” when asked if it’s about Skipper 😂

Outside of the actual knowledge of what they went through , just opinion. I mean Ironman is not easy to have the day on that day , except for Sam laidlow he is basically 3 for 3.

This course is not for either of their strengths to begin with.

Jan wants flat with a group ride to save for the run. No chasing , stay in the front pack.

Joe needs a wetsuit and flat or rolling bike to do his best.

To try and make it better for themselves they seems underweight. Trying to improve watts per kg.

It is a fine line to be to light and lose power and be light but still powerful. One week good , next week cooked.

The course was never going to be great from them anyways.

Yes that podcast was great!!

Thanks again.

On the Filliol post… I think anyone can be a genius with hindsight. I thought it was poor from him.

There are plenty of athlete’s who hit good numbers in training and do well in the race.