Are there any bike setup specifications listed anywhere that shows/lists pro bike setups with regards to saddle, cockpit, stack & reach, etc? Curious to see and compare pro setups or more particularly looking at Jan Frideno’s setup vs. past previous winners.
Haha. Sorry I cant answer that but I have also been wondering about this for awhile since I am 6’5".Curious to see how different my pad x/y is from a stud like that…
Is there any proprietary information or “secret-sauce” within the fit numbers of pro’s and their bike setup that they or their coaches want to try and hide?
Just from the “eye-ball” test looking at the bike portion it appears that some setups look very strong while others look suspect. For example, Frodeno at a stated 6’-4" looks a lot more comfortable, for lack of better verbiage than Potts who is listed at 6’-3".
I still think one of the better, best setup position was Norman Stadler on his Kuota Kalibur back in 2006.
Is there any proprietary information or “secret-sauce” within the fit numbers of pro’s and their bike setup that they or their coaches want to try and hide?
Just from the “eye-ball” test looking at the bike portion it appears that some setups look very strong while others look suspect. For example, Frodeno at a stated 6’-4" looks a lot more comfortable, for lack of better verbiage than Potts who is listed at 6’-3".
I still think one of the better, best setup position was Norman Stadler on his Kuota Kalibur back in 2006.
What you allude to here is the actual “long & low” fit on a bike designed to accommodate that specific purpose… that Kuota Kalibur a prime example, Canyon seems to do a good job of amply allowing it, see tririg’s photo of Patrick Lange for example as well as Jan F.
Many other bikes have trended shorter and taller to meet the wider market need (versus that of limited AG’ers & pro’s chasing low CdA WITH comfort!) hence you see two things…
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pro’s with their elbows well, well, well in front of the head tube (i.e. a lot of % bodyweight supported on front of bike)
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the ‘pooping dog’ position
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combination of (1) & (2) on a small bike to “save weight” / get low
All of which are compromises to get low in the front and all of which have performance implications.
My 2c.
Any idea what size Speedmax he is on? I’m assuming a M(medium) as the L(large) looks super long with a wheelbase of 105.1.
Any idea what size Speedmax he is on? I’m assuming a M(medium) as the L(large) looks super long with a wheelbase of 105.1.
He is on a large. Just compared pictures of the one he is on to my medium sized one.
That seems like a big bike for a pro.? Any idea what the front center measurement is?
yup. atrocity.
I don’t think there’s any ‘secret’ recipe to it; all the guys you mention are (were) at the top of their game. Stadler’s position is rare now i.e. forearms pretty much flat or down-angled. Tell me he wouldn’t be scoffed at for this now: http://www.bikesportmichigan.com/...libur/l/IMG_2961.jpg
ETA - check out this old ST article on Pro positions! http://www.slowtwitch.com/Bike_Fit/Bike_positions_of_pro_triathletes_1603.html
Have not been able to find anything on Frodeno bike size? Just curious if he really is on a size LARGE, as this appears to be a very long bike? If the wheelbase is 1051mm and chainstay length is 420mm, than the front-center would be ________ ? Assuming the length is due to the longer than normal chainstay length of 420mm compared to the average of 400mm.
Have not been able to find anything on Frodeno bike size? Just curious if he really is on a size LARGE, as this appears to be a very long bike? If the wheelbase is 1051mm and chainstay length is 420mm, than the front-center would be ________ ? Assuming the length is due to the longer than normal chainstay length of 420mm compared to the average of 400mm.
Woah! You measured all that from a photo? If yes, then that is pretty awesome.
HA…you took the time to respond…impressive. Give yourself a star!
Measurements are from Canyon’s website:
This article says he has a 86cm seat height, so no surprise he is on a large frame. He must also have long legs for his height. It would be hard not to have a reasonable drop to the handlebars when your seat is up that high.
http://home.trainingpeaks.com/blog/article/the-benefits-of-reducing-your-crank-length
Thanks for the info.
During my last fit and setup, seat height was determined to be 809mm with a crank length of 170mm, 6’-2".
860mm with 172.5mm seems super high even at 6’-4"…long legs? Does the 2" difference in height equate to the additional 5cm in saddle height assuming leg length?