https://www.instagram.com/p/BOK4BpjDU6W/?taken-by=jakobing
Update from fall 2018
https://www.tv2.no/sport/10150911/?fbclid=IwAR3hqmHfHpLHi8YlgOK471YACrZ4vezNlwBAZ69CBCEC5NuPPlSu1DWGwPI
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Jakob Ingebrigtsen (@jakobing) • Instagram photos and videos.html
With the hashtags #fuckthapolice and #thuglife, he’s a sure thing for success later in life…if he’s not in jail.
Ah … I chalk it up to ESL … its Norway.
With the hashtags #fuckthapolice and #thuglife, he’s a sure thing for success later in life…if he’s not in jail.
It’s just a testament to the stupidity of “SEO.” Basically, the idea that somehow people will actually use hashtags that are appropriate for categorization as opposed to simply using hashtags to put their photos in front of a maximally large audience is idiotic.
https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/thuglife/ - 5,579,215 posts
https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/dab/ - 3,425,738 posts
VS
https://www.instagram.com/explore/tags/trackandfield/ - 937,085
Basically, it’s just the social media “savvy” of a 16yo kid. It’s not ESL. It’s understanding how to game social media.
This is just one of the many things I hate about social media. But hashtags translate into “results.” Well, the sort of bizarre results where followers, “likes,” and the sort are considered some bizarre form of currency. Which of course helps to explain the insanity of this: https://www.google.com/finance?q=NYSE:TWTR
Jakob is living in Norway. It will be wrong to use American culture standards on what is smart to say.
It looks like he has no problem getting running results or to get sponsors so he has to do something right.
Any chance he is the younger brother of Filip Ingebrigsten who was DQ’d from Rio 1500m for throwing some nasty elbows. Could explain the hashtags
Jakob is living in Norway. It will be wrong to use American culture standards on what is smart to say.
It looks like he has no problem getting running results or to get sponsors so he has to do something right.
I wasn’t disputing what is “smart” to say. My point was more that 16yo kids, regardless of nationality, probably have a VERY different sense of how best to “use” social media than most people 25+. And that a Norwegian 16yo and an American 16yo are probably much, much more similar to each other than they are to “adults” of the same nationality.
Maybe the problem is that grownups are talking about #hashtags while a 16 year old is running like a grownup 
Jakob did run 3.42 on 1,500m before the turned 16.
Recently he become the U20 European Champion in cross country for U20, running 6.1k in 17.06.
According to his VDOT of 77, he should have a threshold pace of 4:49. What an underachiever 
Maybe the problem is that grownups are talking about #hashtags while a 16 year old is running like a grownup
Jakob did run 3.42 on 1,500m before the turned 16.
Recently he become the U20 European Champion in cross country for U20, running 6.1k in 17.06.
Given that he currently ranks 239th in the world in the 1500, I think he has a ways to go before we talk about him running “like a grown up.” Remind me, if you will, the number of U20 European Champions in XC who have gone on to win Olympic medals?
The kid is obviously a great runner. He’d have decimated the US Junior USATF records in the 1500m and 3000m. But what’s interesting is that Matt Centrowitz - the reigning Olympic Gold Medalist in the 1500m - didn’t run that fast nearly that early. He played a bunch of different sports: http://www.runnersworld.com/high-school/hs-profile-matt-centrowitz
While the holder of the Junior World Best in the 1500m was an also ran in elite competition - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_world_youth_bests_in_athletics
Likewise the Junior World Best in the 3000m has had a good - but not remarkable - elite career.
Based on precedent, I’d be shocked if this kid got a lot faster.
While the holder of the Junior World Best in the 1500m was an also ran in elite competition - https://en.wikipedia.org/...h_bests_in_athletics
Likewise the Junior World Best in the 3000m has had a good - but not remarkable - elite career.
Based on precedent, I’d be shocked if this kid got a lot faster.
Jordan,
Some of those kids who are running truly world-class times at 16/17, do go on to greatness, later on, but they are the exception. Most who are this good at this age, don’t end up going on past the college level, where it’s time to REALLY step it up.
As you mention, they have “peaked” early and there’s not much upside after that.
There is a general tendency, particularly in North America in kid/youth sports to specialize too early and push kids too hard, too early. Many are done by the time they reach the end of their teen years.
Maybe the problem is that grownups are talking about #hashtags while a 16 year old is running like a grownup
Jakob did run 3.42 on 1,500m before the turned 16.
Recently he become the U20 European Champion in cross country for U20, running 6.1k in 17.06.
Given that he currently ranks 239th in the world in the 1500, I think he has a ways to go before we talk about him running “like a grown up.” Remind me, if you will, the number of U20 European Champions in XC who have gone on to win Olympic medals?
The kid is obviously a great runner. He’d have decimated the US Junior USATF records in the 1500m and 3000m. But what’s interesting is that Matt Centrowitz - the reigning Olympic Gold Medalist in the 1500m - didn’t run that fast nearly that early. He played a bunch of different sports: http://www.runnersworld.com/...file-matt-centrowitz
While the holder of the Junior World Best in the 1500m was an also ran in elite competition - https://en.wikipedia.org/...h_bests_in_athletics
Likewise the Junior World Best in the 3000m has had a good - but not remarkable - elite career.
Based on precedent, I’d be shocked if this kid got a lot faster.
Interesting use of statistics. You could have used his brothers as an example for progress. They are 3.31 and 3.32 runners on 1,500.
His brother henrik is a douche. He always looks like he is trying to pose so hard at the start of races. Usually finishes well back too
So threshold pace is 5 min/miles. Am I right in interpreting that he could run about a 1:06 half in perfect conditions then, maybe more like 1:08 with a couple hills, corners and wind in the real world?? Pretty fast but still a good chunk of ground to make up if he wants to enter the long distance world class…Just curious on the implications of this metric really.
Maybe the problem is that grownups are talking about #hashtags while a 16 year old is running like a grownup
Jakob did run 3.42 on 1,500m before the turned 16.
Recently he become the U20 European Champion in cross country for U20, running 6.1k in 17.06.
Given that he currently ranks 239th in the world in the 1500, I think he has a ways to go before we talk about him running “like a grown up.” Remind me, if you will, the number of U20 European Champions in XC who have gone on to win Olympic medals?
The kid is obviously a great runner. He’d have decimated the US Junior USATF records in the 1500m and 3000m. But what’s interesting is that Matt Centrowitz - the reigning Olympic Gold Medalist in the 1500m - didn’t run that fast nearly that early. He played a bunch of different sports: http://www.runnersworld.com/...file-matt-centrowitz
While the holder of the Junior World Best in the 1500m was an also ran in elite competition - https://en.wikipedia.org/...h_bests_in_athletics
Likewise the Junior World Best in the 3000m has had a good - but not remarkable - elite career.
Based on precedent, I’d be shocked if this kid got a lot faster.
Interesting use of statistics. You could have used his brothers as an example for progress. They are 3.31 and 3.32 runners on 1,500.
How is the speed of his brothers relevant? If you are suggesting that because they were slower at his age that Jakob is therefore likely to be faster when he matures, I think that’s a rather odd assertion. Likewise, if both of his brothers run that fast, maybe that means that’s as fast as he’s ever likely to be. Neither of his brothers’ careers serves as a particularly compelling argument that Jakob is going to be a medalist at the Olympics or WC as a senior elite.
In fairness, Centrowitz was no slouch in high school; he did go 4:04, which didn’t exactly threaten Webb’s 3:53, but is a damn fast high school time. And it doesn’t hurt to be the son of Matt Centrowitz Sr either.
Centrowitz Jr just has one gorgeous stride. That 53 second front running last lap was a thing of beauty to watch.
Last note: with all the late drug testing being done on 2008 and 2012 thanks to good old Russia, what are the odds of Centrowitz 4th place in 2012 coming up a notch?
So threshold pace is 5 min/miles. Am I right in interpreting that he could run about a 1:06 half in perfect conditions then, maybe more like 1:08 with a couple hills, corners and wind in the real world?? Pretty fast but still a good chunk of ground to make up if he wants to enter the long distance world clas…Just curious on the implications of this metric really.
Letsrun.com will have something on Jakob tomorrow.
In June as 15 (turned 16 in September) he ran 1,500 - 3.42, 3,000 - 8.22 and 800 - 1.51 over three days. Last two without a lot of competition.
He trains very little speed, 5x6 minutes is a typical interval session. 2x(10x200m uphill) is another.
He is not afraid of running shorter races also. This fall he first ran 300mh in 40.7 (he is not a sprinter and then right after ran the 1,500m steeple in 4.10.
Here you have the u20 crossX race https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tQASHGTCPQ&t=1359s
“But what’s interesting is that Matt Centrowitz”
the reason matt centrowitz won gold is that his dad is matt centrowitz, early 1970s high school distance god. you should always put your money on an early 1970s high school distance god. him, or anything he touches. or his offspring.
“But what’s interesting is that Matt Centrowitz”
the reason matt centrowitz won gold is that his dad is matt centrowitz, early 1970s high school distance god. you should always put your money on an early 1970s high school distance god. him, or anything he touches. or his offspring.
Mom deserves some credit too (maybe most since it is her mitochondrial DNA), internets say she was a 2:08 half-miler with little effort and her last name is even Bannister. Good genes all around.
So threshold pace is 5 min/miles. Am I right in interpreting that he could run about a 1:06 half in perfect conditions then, maybe more like 1:08 with a couple hills, corners and wind in the real world?? Pretty fast but still a good chunk of ground to make up if he wants to enter the long distance world clas…Just curious on the implications of this metric really.
Letsrun.com will have something on Jakob tomorrow.
In June as 15 (turned 16 in September) he ran 1,500 - 3.42, 3,000 - 8.22 and 800 - 1.51 over three days. Last two without a lot of competition.
He trains very little speed, 5x6 minutes is a typical interval session. 2x(10x200m uphill) is another.
He is not afraid of running shorter races also. This fall he first ran 300mh in 40.7 (he is not a sprinter and then right after ran the 1,500m steeple in 4.10.
Here you have the u20 crossX race https://www.youtube.com/...ASHGTCPQ&t=1359s
And this doesn’t answer my question. I don’t see how the threshold pace is really that relevant to his 1500m prowess actually? I know plenty of pro cyclists that can cain it up a 3 minute climb but can’t do a 40km TT anywhere close to that level…and vice versa.