Also we are now handicapping age group slot with a formula for making an even playing field. One day that could add bmi into the equation.
If you 220 lbs and do 13 hours you slotted ahead of the 180 guy that did 12 for you age group finish placement
I listen to his podcast exactly for the drama.
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I could not agree more with you that weight and body composition should not be taboo. They do have a big impact on overall performance, and let’s face it a lot of people get into endurance sports as a means to lose weight and/or improve body composition.
it’s only natural to try to trim some weight and be leaner going into key races, I think most amateurs (including myself) and most pros will do that. The thing with getting that lean and losing several kgs though is it’s like playing with fire- there’s a massive performance benefit to be lean but still able to perform. But how many of us have stepped over that line at some point, gotten too fixated on weight, then struggled with some combo of underperformance, fatigue, illness, injuries, metabolism damage, and unhealthy relationship with food? I will readily admit that I’ve gone too far especially as someone who’s naturally heavy for my frame and size. And we’re amateurs with more of a cushion, typically with higher body fat, lower volume/intensity and more room for error than pros. We know many pros including top athletes who’ve gone through this cycle too.
From an athlete perspective I would think a better way to approach the body comp/weight discussion is more “it’s an option” to increase performance, but is it a) the BEST option and b) is it worth the potential long-term risks that can be hard to dig out from? Many pros feel they have to take that chance to win a championship- in KB’s case, I don’t think that’s true (or at least not the more extreme weight loss). If he rolled up into Nice with the form from IM Texas and 70.3 Aix en Provence, it’s hard to not see him winning. For us amateurs, unless you’re carrying around excessive weight, it’s probably not necessary to really focus too much on weight as there’s likely lower hanging fruit. I like to think long course tri is a good sport where you don’t HAVE to be super lean to have success, and can have many different body types and athletes strengths succeed.
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@JackKelly-TTH you got the shoe story wrong on the pod. The prototype was legal in London. The production version Hayden wore in London isn’t legal until the 11th. The rules are dumb as @rrheisler pointed out in his article this AM.
you can correct me but they are exactly the same shoes just a different name ?
Yep
They also got wrong the Fury story. They don’t understand that the issue is in him taking a finisher medal when he didn’t finish the course. Now I have a boxful of medals that could sell by the kg, but for some people finishing a long distance race means a lot of sacrifice, and lots have to DNF due to missing the cut-off and don’t get that medal. It’s about the respect and flaunting that you were able to do it with 10 days training.
He was embarrassing from both a performance and human perspective.
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Fury wasn’t the only one though, so you can’t blame them for that.
I think with how tight the cut-off was - they actively said that if you didn’t finish the bike course you could go on to do the run and still get the medal. I agree with this in some respect. You’ve paid your money, done most of the race and finished the swim and the run. Why not get a medal?
Well, I thought I’d get on here because I keep seeing my name floating around… so I figured I’d just say it myself.
Here’s the thing about Jack Kelly. He keeps claiming he’s the number one podcast in triathlon. By who… himself? 
Sure, he makes a good show in some ways maybe even better than ours, and in other ways we’ve absolutely destroyed it.
At the end of the day, we’d just love to see Jack at an actual event. Maybe one day he’ll surprise us and show up in person… without having to hold Jan’s hairbrush at a T100 race.
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The only way you’ve destroyed us, Coxy, is number of biased takes!! You have dominated that.
I’ll be at Nice this week. You’re going to be there too? Let’s see if you’ll say anything to my face that you say online.
P.s I might be desperate for Jan to be my friend, but I’m pretty sure you and Lionel have kissed so you can’t talk!!
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Because he has also bragged about it on his socials.
I’m so cool I’ve done this 100k triathlon with 10 days training.
Yeah - swimming at 4min/100, basically slower than a 5 year old and over the time limit
Cycling at 25kph until again you infringed the time limit and the broom wagon dragged you out
Running like a gorilla with flippers instead of feet, grabbing a medal that you didn’t earn nor deserve.
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well here on ST amongst the always same 7 slowtwits its pretty clear he is bigger than you guys just by looking at the jack kelly and the protri news clicks on their repective threads …
btw i thought that was funny
Based on the available information from podcast directories, Pro Tri News appears to have a larger listener base than The Triathlon Hour.
One podcast app lists the following listener numbers:
- Pro Tri News: 164 listeners
- The Triathlon Hour: 127 listeners
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10/10 for both of ya! Yaaaaaay
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Careful @talbotcox - Jack will start telling you about all of his erections whilst checking the body fat % of the top triathletes.
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I think one of the 2 is more contentious in its content and therefore attracts more clicks.
At least when I criticized PTN, Kyle replied without telling me to f off and how many times he went to the toilet 
I think @JackKelly-TTH and I would both be depressed if our numbers were in the hundreds instead of 5 digits as the data we have used for years would be incorrect 
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i would not worry too much about the numbers since some of the good tri podcasts have rather low numbers as they focus more on quality. but as we can see on the sanders thread people want low quality rather than more evidence based information. and it is not suprising that jack and pto are getting bigger with lower quality and stiring the pot.
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Nope, untrue @Kyleglass91. The stats my man PK gave are correct for me. We have 127 average listeners per week. I think at least 20 of them are here on Slowtwitch. Quality over quantity!
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Come on Jack and Talbot, be better. This is a shit look for both of you.
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Yes. I’m a fan of both shows. Slinging mud just leaves everyone dirty, no one wins.
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