Anyone else run this on their road bike? I had it on until I found a traditional road saddle but not having luck with that route yet. I liked that I could slide back when climbing but lean off the front like a TT position when on the flats or downhill but just didn’t look right on the Scott Addict. I’m thinking about changing back but wanted to get thoughts. I know without a picture it’s hard to tell but I’ve been fitted on it by a slowtwitch approved fitter and doesn’t feel off as far as fit goes but just not as comfy as the ISM. Just trying to decide if I like it bc it’s on my TT bike and I’m used to it or if it’s something else. I know I can run whatever I want on it just wanting some feedback or someone to tell me I’m an idiot as per normal.
I ride ISM Attack on both my P5 and my Addict. I don’t care what it looks like when it’s under my ass!
It’s designed for use on a road bike (and also TT), hence why its called the “Road”…
No issues using it on a road bike if it works for you - I had one on my road bike until I found I was actually more comfortable on a Specialized Sitero on my road bike, which is supposedly “TT only” design…
I’ve done it, but tend to go back and forth between that and an SLR Superflow.
I think that an ISM saddle will change the relative geometry of your road bike so that it will not handle, fit, nor feel the same.
Further, the ISM saddle was not, and is not a good idea- anatomically speaking.
Q: Why would you want to distribute body weight onto two narrow points so that gravity is more concentrated onto two smaller areas compared to one larger area?
A: Just to sell something new to people who don’t know better.
I think that an ISM saddle will change the relative geometry of your road bike so that it will not handle, fit, nor feel the same.
Further, the ISM saddle was not, and is not a good idea- anatomically speaking.
Q: Why would you want to distribute body weight onto two narrow points so that gravity is more concentrated onto two smaller areas compared to one larger area?
A: Just to sell something new to people who don’t know better.
There is NOTHING correct in this post whatsoever.
To the original OP. If it works for you, do it. I’ve often used an Adamo Road model as a road bike saddle.
Ride a ISM attack mounted on a road bike, its great.
Your ignorance is … well…
Care to provide evidence for your claim?
I put an ISM Prologue on my BMC roadbike about 2 months ago and couldn’t be happier. Much more comfortable when riding normally as well as in the drops. I noticed a guy who does group rides with me using the ISM Road version and I asked him his thoughts. He said “Before using this saddle, I had no kids. Since switching, I have 2”.
I think that an ISM saddle will change the relative geometry of your road bike so that it will not handle, fit, nor feel the same.
Further, the ISM saddle was not, and is not a good idea- anatomically speaking.
Q: Why would you want to distribute body weight onto two narrow points so that gravity is more concentrated onto two smaller areas compared to one larger area?
A: Just to sell something new to people who don’t know better.
There is NOTHING correct in this post whatsoever.
To the original OP. If it works for you, do it. I’ve often used an Adamo Road model as a road bike saddle.I think he got the first sentence right for the most part - sitting on an ISM road pushes the rider more forward than a traditional road saddle, and that can change the handle, fit, and feel. Not to say that it is impossible to compensate for, but it does change things.
The rest isn’t correct.
As this thread indicates, many have had good results using ISM saddles on road bikes, and we’ve put a few on ourselves. But for us it’s typically an option of last resort because of the impact it has on the rider’s relative position on the bike.
And despite it’s name, the ISM Road doesn’t seem to have been really built for road cycling. Even ISM recommends the PL (Performance Long) series for road because of the broader rear part of the saddle. The PL has the same shape as the Prologue and Breakaway.
On ISM’s website, they even mention that the ISM Road is most commonly used for triathlon and TT. There’s no mention of road cycling. The ISM Road is the narrowest of the PS (Performance Short) options, so maybe that was the original thinking? You’d have to ask someone at ISM. We’ve most commonly used it for tri, though.
I ride an ism road on my TT-bike and an ism podium on my road bike. I have no issues and really like my saddles. I have endured a 300km/8 hour ride on the road bike and saddle problems were never an issue…
I think that an ISM saddle will change the relative geometry of your road bike so that it will not handle, fit, nor feel the same.
Further, the ISM saddle was not, and is not a good idea- anatomically speaking.
Q: Why would you want to distribute body weight onto two narrow points so that gravity is more concentrated onto two smaller areas compared to one larger area?
A: Just to sell something new to people who don’t know better.
There is NOTHING correct in this post whatsoever.
To the original OP. If it works for you, do it. I’ve often used an Adamo Road model as a road bike saddle.I think he got the first sentence right for the most part - sitting on an ISM road pushes the rider more forward than a traditional road saddle, and that can change the handle, fit, and feel. Not to say that it is impossible to compensate for, but it does change things.
The rest isn’t correct.
As this thread indicates, many have had good results using ISM saddles on road bikes, and we’ve put a few on ourselves. But for us it’s typically an option of last resort because of the impact it has on the rider’s relative position on the bike.
And despite it’s name, the ISM Road doesn’t seem to have been really built for road cycling. Even ISM recommends the PL (Performance Long) series for road because of the broader rear part of the saddle. The PL has the same shape as the Prologue and Breakaway.
On ISM’s website, they even mention that the ISM Road is most commonly used for triathlon and TT. There’s no mention of road cycling. The ISM Road is the narrowest of the PS (Performance Short) options, so maybe that was the original thinking? You’d have to ask someone at ISM. We’ve most commonly used it for tri, though.
Someone here is taking crazy pills…
You mean to tell me that changing your fore/aft position relative to the wheel base and BB doesn’t change the way that a bike handles, fits, and feels!!!
I guess that I must be having tactile hallucinations or some form of altered perception when I ride a bicycle, but hey who am I to tell you what you aren’t feeling?
I bounced back and forth between a Specialized Power and ISM Podium on my road bike this year. To get the same fit, I had the ISM pretty much at the back of a 25mm offset seatpost and the Power pushed forward on the same seatpost about ~5mm from being ‘maxed’ forward according to the rail markings.
There’s no replacement for crotch comfort while riding a bike!
Edit: I tried both PL’s and the old Racing 2 on the road bike as well and couldn’t get comfortable. The Podium has been the only ISM comfortable (for me) in a road position.
I bounced back and forth between a Specialized Power and ISM Podium on my road bike this year. To get the same fit, I had the ISM pretty much at the back of a 25mm offset seatpost and the Power pushed forward on the same seatpost about ~5mm from being ‘maxed’ forward according to the rail markings.
There’s no replacement for crotch comfort while riding a bike!
Same saddles, same experience, same conclusion…the saddle works for me so that’s what I’m going to ride. That being said I have Power’s on my CX bike and MTB.
I bounced back and forth between a Specialized Power and ISM Podium on my road bike this year. To get the same fit, I had the ISM pretty much at the back of a 25mm offset seatpost and the Power pushed forward on the same seatpost about ~5mm from being ‘maxed’ forward according to the rail markings.
There’s no replacement for crotch comfort while riding a bike!
Same saddles, same experience, same conclusion…the saddle works for me so that’s what I’m going to ride. That being said I have Power’s on my CX bike and MTB.
Ha, my two Powers are also doing CX and MTB duty now. Maybe we’re related!
The slightly angled up nose of the Power is just a hatchet in a lower road position. It hurt to pee for two days after a 200k ride. The sit bone support is fantastic at the right angle, but that same angle requires pointing the nose up. They feel good on bikes that don’t require getting low and they are super easy to move around for handling.
I just did the exact same thing with my prologue last week on my BMC road bike and couldnt be happier.
Someone here is taking crazy pills…
You mean to tell me that changing your fore/aft position relative to the wheel base and BB doesn’t change the way that a bike handles, fits, and feels!!!
I guess that I must be having tactile hallucinations or some form of altered perception when I ride a bicycle, but hey who am I to tell you what you aren’t feeling?
There is a very subtle thing to note here: you might be changing the saddle fore/aft position, but you are NOT necessarily changing your body position.
Close your eyes and think of your most comfortable and efficient position on a bike. Pretend there isn’t a bike there.
Your pelvis is somewhere in space.
Your feet are somewhere in space.
Your arms are somewhere in space.
Now, let’s put a couple of bikes under you while you’re hanging out in the happiest place in space. We are not going to fit you to a bike. We are going to fit bikes to you. You will touch any bike in 5-7 places at any given time. In order to keep you in your happy place, we need to maintain the relationships between your pelvis, feet, and arms.
How we get those points supported can change and be comfortable, as long as we don’t relocate any of your body points. Your saddle height, fore/aft position, angle, cockpit dimensions, pedal positions, etc., as measured on the bike are all reflections of your body measurements. They are not the driver - they are the driven.
Your saddle position can vary greatly from saddle to saddle, depending on how the particular saddle supports your pelvis. We tend to sit on a traditional saddle, but in front of a noseless saddle. The saddle measurements can be very different while the pelvic/body position remains the same.
I hope that makes some sense.
I think that an ISM saddle will change the relative geometry of your road bike so that it will not handle, fit, nor feel the same.
Further, the ISM saddle was not, and is not a good idea- anatomically speaking.
Q: Why would you want to distribute body weight onto two narrow points so that gravity is more concentrated onto two smaller areas compared to one larger area?
A: Just to sell something new to people who don’t know better.
There is NOTHING correct in this post whatsoever.
To the original OP. If it works for you, do it. I’ve often used an Adamo Road model as a road bike saddle.
Well… in fairness, the ISMs are “taller” than normal road saddles (at least the ones I have), so you have to drop the seatpost a bit to match positions. And if you don’t do that, yes, it will change a bunch of things for the worse. But why would you do that? Be like saying I can’t drive my wife’s car because she has the seat more forward.
ISM road on my Allez and shiv always have always will
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I think that an ISM saddle will change the relative geometry of your road bike so that it will not handle, fit, nor feel the same.
Further, the ISM saddle was not, and is not a good idea- anatomically speaking.
Q: Why would you want to distribute body weight onto two narrow points so that gravity is more concentrated onto two smaller areas compared to one larger area?
A: Just to sell something new to people who don’t know better.
There is NOTHING correct in this post whatsoever.
To the original OP. If it works for you, do it. I’ve often used an Adamo Road model as a road bike saddle.I think he got the first sentence right for the most part - sitting on an ISM road pushes the rider more forward than a traditional road saddle, and that can change the handle, fit, and feel. Not to say that it is impossible to compensate for, but it does change things.
Now, I’m no professional fitter, but I’m going to have to respectfully disagree with you on that. Properly set up, the position of the rider relative to the other touch points should be NO different than a traditional road saddle. If it “pushes the rider more forward”, it’s not set up far enough back. As you well know (or should) a saddle like the ISM models basically have the forward 5-8cm of a traditional saddle truncated, hence for a starting point the ISM saddle should be set up with the front portion set back ~5-8cm as compared to a traditional saddle nose…and it may need to go even further back than that (which was the case for me). But, once you find that “sweet spot”, it gives one a “locked in” feeling that doesn’t change the relationships between the rider’s body and the other touch points (bars, pedals).
Actually, it’s that “locked in” feeling that is IMO the arbiter of whether or not a rider will prefer the ISM or not for road use. I’ve found that folks who are used to a traditional saddle shape like a Fizik Alliante, or Specialized Toupe are just fine with something like an ISM-type saddle as a road bike…whereas folks who are used to, or prefer a more “plank”-like saddle (such as a Fizik Arrione) and are used to no well-defined single spot to rest on and moving around in it a lot (probably because there’s no well-defined spot…chicken or the egg?).
As this thread indicates, many have had good results using ISM saddles on road bikes, and we’ve put a few on ourselves. But for us it’s typically an option of last resort because of the impact it has on the rider’s relative position on the bike.
Hmmm…that above tells me that you may not have been setting them up correctly on them then…
And despite it’s name, the ISM Road doesn’t seem to have been really built for road cycling. Even ISM recommends the PL (Performance Long) series for road because of the broader rear part of the saddle. The PL has the same shape as the Prologue and Breakaway.
Actually, I’ve been using the Road model as an actual road saddle well before the more recent proliferation of models from ISM. If you compare across them though, what you’ll discover is that the size and shape in the actual area you perch on the saddle is basically the same across them. IMHO, a good majority of the differences in “shape” are in areas that you don’t actually use while riding, and seem to be done to make the “truncated nose” saddles look more like a traditional road saddle, and to try to counter the impressions by some that they look “too wide”. I’ve used the Prologue and PN1.1 as well, so it’s not like I don’t have experience on the newer shapes. If you’re “using” the rear portions (near the widest sections) of these saddles, “you’re doing it wrong” 