This thread is split off from the “War with Iran imminent? (Non-Political)” thread in the Coffee Room. I’ve moved posts from that thread related to the broad discussion of whether Iran is a terrible place, or ok, or does it depend on who you talk to, etc.
Please keep in mind that this is still the Coffee Room, and avoid getting political. If this thread drifts in that direction, Moderators will move it to the Politics is Life forum.
Regards,
slowguy
A civilian leader of a terrorist state and terrorist supporter who openly call for the annihilation of the US and its citizens (ignoring the crimes of humanity that is official policy back in Iran..) yeah…Im not sure anyone is sad he was ‘assassinated’ (except for some blue haired, nose ringed protestors..)…It’s about time we started standing up to these vile pieces of human filth.
We are talking about a country who advocates raping female prisoners who are virgins and to be executed, to prevent them from going to heaven ffs…
That is quite an assertion. What poll is this based on?
Also, can you define what a “terrorist state” is?
In any case, not sure how relevant any of this is, as the majority of Iraqis may have been “extremely happy” with the demise of Hussein, but that still didn’t stop them from attacking, killing, and maiming US and coalition troops with relish.
Let’s see what AI says.
1. Domestic Repression and Protests
Human rights organizations report that the Iranian government significantly escalated its use of lethal force against its own citizens in early 2026.
Thanks, but, to clarify, I was more asking what poll this @Engner66 assertion was based on:
“…the majority of Iranians are extremely happy with the ongoing operation so far.”
This conversation reminds me of an anecdote one of my Persian friends shared with me: apparently, a bunch of white lefties showed up to one of the local protests erroneously thinking they were protesting in support of the regime (i.e. wearing the free palestine picnic blanket looking thing, etc, you can’t make this stuff up) so the folks politely explained to these dudes that they were actually protesting against the regime, and apparently their white saviour complex kicked in and they started explaining to some of these folks that they were wrong, etc. they were politely asked to go home.
Bottom line is, have you folks every considered that maybe, just maybe… the people that have spent about 20-30 years living under the regime and eventually managed to escape and move to another country but sill have their parents, siblings, friends in the county might actually have a bit more knowledge about what’s going in the country than what a bunch of lazy AI Google search could spew out?
Do you know how the Iranian revolution began? Do you know the history of the puppet government that the CIA helped set up, the Shah? We’re not the good guys in the white hats.
We’re doing this for Israel and Trump’s ego.
Not selling anything, just sharing an anecdote. Bur really, lefties are the only folks in here in Toronto that for some reason I will never understand are so quick to jump in bed with any terrorist regime despite only having one thing in common: their hate for Israel. I personally don’t understand their position, these folks are not DEI or LGBTQ friendly, in fact you wouldn’t be able to have this forum open for these kind of discussions under a Hamas or Iranian regime, my friends get death threats simply by commenting on stuff they don’t like on IG.
I personally don’t understand why anyone sides with one side or the other. Simply picking the lesser of two evils. Although I dont think it’s any great mystery as to why people at different ends of the policial spectrum pick the sides that they do.
My AI search is far less lazy than you pulling a wildly exaggerated number out of your ass. Give us a source or admit that you made it up.
This is what is starting to wear on me. It is possible for both sides of a conflict to be wrong, and acting in bad faith. Two opposing things can be seen from the outside as wrong.
I can both see and know, what the regime in Iran does is horrible and abhorrent. I can also see the American response under the Trump regime as not acting within our expected standards, and starting a “war/police action/whatever” as not something we should be conducting at this time. Especially when it flies in the face of what the leader has been saying, no new wars, we obliterated their nuclear capacity, why are we spending money fight in the ME when we have our own issues here, etc.
Two people/parties can take a position on an issue and be wrong when looked at from the outside.
You are totally missing the forest for the trees.
No one here thinks the Iranian govt is good. The real question, is this the best action to take right now, and do the instigators of this war even remotely know what the f*ck they are doing?
You’re probably too young to remember, but, in the 2000s, no one with half of a brain thought that the Iraqi govt was good either. And, unfortunately, the US took action while the instigators of the war most definitely did not know what the f*ck they were doing. You likely don’t remember, but, regarding the mass murder of innocent men, women, and children, that didn’t turn out well either.
I bicycled across Iran back in 2013 and would be careful assuming most people opposed Khamenei. I spent a lot of time with local families and just going through the countryside.
The young, people in cities and those who left Iran would be strongly in support of his death but Iran is a deeply religious country and the Supreme Leader has a lot of support. You won’t see that support on our televisions of course, we only see the celebrations of his death, but our coverage is distorted.
I think the bigger issue is that even those opposed to him are concerned with what comes next. There is no political party ready to take over and the Guardian Council will still weed out candidates unacceptable to them. It’s not like Iran, like Iraq before it, will suddenly lose the religious influence and adopt full democratic rule. It is a Muslim country, governed by Sharia Law, and there is about a zero chance they return to the pre-1979 days of a Shah.
I am white, not a lefty (I voted for the People’s Party here), and base my opinions on what I saw, not what the media is saying, so take it for what it’s worth.
Wow, that must have been an amazing experience.
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While making predictions is always a hazardous endeavor, the recent past is often worth examining.
If the usa fully decapitates the Iranian state a la Iraq, it is not hard to imagine that a civil war of sh*tshow proportions will likely ensue.
In my travels, the 2 countries with the friendliest and most hospitable people I experienced in the world were Iran and Syria.
So much of what we see on the news, and hear from others, is simply not true. It was devastating to see what ISIS was doing in Syria and equally as difficult to watch what is happening to Iran.
Those beating their chests and saying the Iranians deserve it, just don’t understand.
Must have been an amazing trip. What do you think might happen to anyone who didn’t show support however for the supreme leader? Until people truly feel safe and free you most likely would have no idea what their real feelings are in Iran.
Speaking of which…
How fortunate you are a male…
Who’s saying the Iranians deserve it? The leadership and the people enforcing the bloody ruthless rape, murder and horrific disfigurement of women however…yeah they deserve it..
Fear is a very strong motivator-most times it’s easier to just tow the line. Do you recall what happened when Saddam first took power-they had a large meeting and one after one anyone who had been reported to have opposed him were taken out and shot dead.
I have no idea, what people really think, but can say that about everyone.
I’m no fan of the government, particularly their support of terrorist organizations but it is a pretty conservative Muslim country. The overthrowing of the Shah in 1979 was met with widespread support as was the imposition of Sharia Law. The anti-West feeling (not of the people but of what they perceive as a deterioration in morals) was also widespread. They loved the people in the West, they weren’t looking to kill all of us, they just don’t want their children exposed to the lifestyle.
I have no idea of their personal feelings towards Khamenei, I just know that in particular the older people in the countryside, liked the Sharia Laws and after 46 years, would think that is pretty common.
I just don’t see who is going to come forward and convince an entire country to suddenly abolish everything they have ever known (or if they were alive in 1979, likely supported) because Israel and the West decided it’s time for a change.
That’s just not how things work over there.
I met 2 girls biking on their own, they loved the country. Things aren’t always the way they appear on the news.
I’m well aware of the atrocities of Saddam and Khameini. You make it sound as if I support them. I’m just providing what I saw first hand, not relying on news reports.