These are the roll-down stats for Ironman Western Australia which was at the weekend. Female only. Male rolldown is in January. Most people that wanted a spot got one. Hopefully this isn’t a sign of things to come and that when the dust settles (re 2 WC venues) most people will be taking their slots again. If not it will just end up like the 70.3 WC.
KONA ROLL DOWN IMWA summary. The first since the announcement of separate world championships. Find out if you could qualify. Female ONLY roll down in Western Australia as men will be virtual in January 2023 once the new location details are released.
245 women finished IMWA, 65 slots allocated. Number of slots allocated to each AG in brackets and final slot time to qualify
18 - 24 (1) rolled to last competitor at 2, time 11:31 25-29 (7, one added from another AG) - rolled to 11 then offered to any finisher. 3 got up, 2 slots left. Rolled to 14. Time 12:18 30-34 (8) - rolled to 11. Time 11:39 35-39 (12 - one added from another AG) rolled to 18. Time 12:43
**40-44 **(9) rolled to 14. Time 12:12 45-49 (11) rolled to 4 (no takers) then offered to anyone that finished. 13 stood up, 2 sent back, final slot finished 17th. Time 12:43 50-54 (9) rolled to 15. Time 12:37 55-59 (6) rolled to 11 then offered to any finisher. Allocated to only athlete with hand up - 19th . Time 16:19 60-64 (2) rolled to 3, not taken as 3 only in age group- reallocated 65-69 (1) reallocated
The men’s rolldown is deferred to January (via email). They have specified that 40 slots will go to the men but did not disclose allocation by age-group.
Apologies for being slightly off-topic, but I’m considering this race next year as my wife would like to travel to Australia. I hear this is a beautiful course and a well done IM. Any insight on whether it’d be worth traveling from the US to do this race?
It’d be nice to KQ, but I’m not really getting my hopes up and so that’s not my primary goal for traveling to this race. Still, I’m curious to learn how the men’s roll down shakes out in January.
In North America next year I predict in the mens slot allocation we see a lot of “anyone that finished and wants to go come on up with your credit card”
I also do not think there are 2500 AG women around the world that want to cough up the money to race Kona.
I hope that IM restores the one day race in Kona in the next few years.
IM Western Australia is one of the best around. The organisation is fantastic, plentiful volunteers and the town loves the race. Plus this year was the fairest race I have done in terms of drafting - there was almost none that I saw.
Stunning swim, fast flat bike - although this year was windy as hell with 30-40 kph winds swirling through the forrest. Run is flat and along the coast with 4 laps so get to go through the amazing crowds a lot. Temp can vary from 25 degrees on the run (this year) to 38 degrees (2017).
yes, it’s a beautiful part of the world and lots to do and see in WA (or even just southern WA) outside of the IM race.
If you wanted a longer holiday you could tack on the east coast
In North America next year I predict in the mens slot allocation we see a lot of “anyone that finished and wants to go come on up with your credit card”
I also do not think there are 2500 AG women around the world that want to cough up the money to race Kona.
I hope that IM restores the one day race in Kona in the next few years.
So…your argument is that women don’t want to go to Kona but NA men only want to go to Kona?
Not sure how a discussion of North American men needed to be added to this thread.
In North America next year I predict in the mens slot allocation we see a lot of “anyone that finished and wants to go come on up with your credit card”
I also do not think there are 2500 AG women around the world that want to cough up the money to race Kona.
I hope that IM restores the one day race in Kona in the next few years.
So…your argument is that women don’t want to go to Kona but NA men only want to go to Kona?
Not sure how a discussion of North American men needed to be added to this thread.
Yes that’s his argument because NA men do in fact want to go and the numbers in years past support that argument. And I bet we see similar results in NA this year for the men in the 2023 WC since the location isn’t Kona.
Where it is written that we can’t speak about men in a women’s related thread?
Apologies for being slightly off-topic, but I’m considering this race next year as my wife would like to travel to Australia. I hear this is a beautiful course and a well done IM. Any insight on whether it’d be worth traveling from the US to do this race?
It’d be nice to KQ, but I’m not really getting my hopes up and so that’s not my primary goal for traveling to this race. Still, I’m curious to learn how the men’s roll down shakes out in January.
I’ll try and upload some pics later and as Ozmill says, all 3 Oz Im races are stunning locations.
thanks, interesting… what were the rolldowns like in previous years I wonder ?
It’s a long way from WA to Hawaii…
Normally most people take their spots. For women it might roll down a bit, but not this far. I suspect it would be similar for the men even with the option of skipping Nice and going to Kona 2024. Not sure why there is this apathy. Probably a combination of a number of reasons - increased cost, having 2 venues and I guess a general disillusionment with Ironman as a brand. Also no-one to that I spoke to returning from Kona this year had much positive to say about it, which is kind of sad. There seemed to be quite a bit of hostility from the locals. My mate was spat on and had chicken thrown at him!
This is a thread demonstrating the lack of interest in Kona spots for women at the latest IM.
2023 IMWC is generally thought to be in Europe.
North American men who can not compete in Kona in 2023, will not be rushing to the registration line at NA ironmans next year to race a non-Kona WC in Europe.
I think you will see the start list for the 2023 WC for men dominated by Europeans essentially turning it into a 70.3 WC type regional distribution.
My point on women is I do not think there are 2500 women who want to pay 1500 dollars for Kona, so you will see many races where the Kona spots roll through the field.
These are the roll-down stats for Ironman Western Australia which was at the weekend. Female only. Male rolldown is in January. Most people that wanted a spot got one. Hopefully this isn’t a sign of things to come and that when the dust settles (re 2 WC venues) most people will be taking their slots again. If not it will just end up like the 70.3 WC.
KONA ROLL DOWN IMWA summary. The first since the announcement of separate world championships. Find out if you could qualify. Female ONLY roll down in Western Australia as men will be virtual in January 2023 once the new location details are released.
245 women finished IMWA, 65 slots allocated. Number of slots allocated to each AG in brackets and final slot time to qualify
18 - 24 (1) rolled to last competitor at 2, time 11:31 25-29 (7, one added from another AG) - rolled to 11 then offered to any finisher. 3 got up, 2 slots left. Rolled to 14. Time 12:18 30-34 (8) - rolled to 11. Time 11:39 35-39 (12 - one added from another AG) rolled to 18. Time 12:43
**40-44 **(9) rolled to 14. Time 12:12 45-49 (11) rolled to 4 (no takers) then offered to anyone that finished. 13 stood up, 2 sent back, final slot finished 17th. Time 12:43 50-54 (9) rolled to 15. Time 12:37 55-59 (6) rolled to 11 then offered to any finisher. Allocated to only athlete with hand up - 19th . Time 16:19 60-64 (2) rolled to 3, not taken as 3 only in age group- reallocated 65-69 (1) reallocated
To be fair there have always been a fair bit of roll downs at IMWA. The exchange rate doesn’t help, flights from PER aren’t short.
IMWA though is a beautiful race. Glad I got to swim around the pier which turned out to be the last year they did that. Windy AF that year, so windy the flies weren’t a bother!
IMWA though is a beautiful race. Glad I got to swim around the pier which turned out to be the last year they did that. Windy AF that year, so windy the flies weren’t a bother!
Yeah gutted that don’t swim round the jetty anymore. The swim is still stunning, but much prefer the previous swim course. They still do a seperate open water race round the jetty in Feb which is normally a sell out.
In North America next year I predict in the mens slot allocation we see a lot of “anyone that finished and wants to go come on up with your credit card”
I also do not think there are 2500 AG women around the world that want to cough up the money to race Kona.
I hope that IM restores the one day race in Kona in the next few years.
So…your argument is that women don’t want to go to Kona but NA men only want to go to Kona?
Not sure how a discussion of North American men needed to be added to this thread.
Yes that’s his argument because NA men do in fact want to go and the numbers in years past support that argument. And I bet we see similar results in NA this year for the men in the 2023 WC since the location isn’t Kona.
Where it is written that we can’t speak about men in a women’s related thread?
Well, there are no rules but it is simply off-topic. It is also strange to compare the roll-down from Western Australia and interpret that as “not enough women want to go to Kona”. The facts are that they will sell the 2,500 slot. It may not be the fastest of the fastest and we can argue the merits of that but it would be fun to at least try to stay on topic and also be intellectually consistent in logical thought.
In North America next year I predict in the mens slot allocation we see a lot of “anyone that finished and wants to go come on up with your credit card”
I also do not think there are 2500 AG women around the world that want to cough up the money to race Kona.
I hope that IM restores the one day race in Kona in the next few years.
So…your argument is that women don’t want to go to Kona but NA men only want to go to Kona?
Not sure how a discussion of North American men needed to be added to this thread.
Yes that’s his argument because NA men do in fact want to go and the numbers in years past support that argument. And I bet we see similar results in NA this year for the men in the 2023 WC since the location isn’t Kona.
Where it is written that we can’t speak about men in a women’s related thread?
Well, there are no rules but it is simply off-topic. It is also strange to compare the roll-down from Western Australia and interpret that as “not enough women want to go to Kona”. The facts are that they will sell the 2,500 slot. It may not be the fastest of the fastest and we can argue the merits of that but it would be fun to at least try to stay on topic and also be intellectually consistent in logical thought.
mkq, I feel like you’re doing what ST does -picking a fight for, well, basically nothing
