I am looking to get a Aero Raod frame, who has what and can provide some details and ride comfort of your bike. How does it hold up on long rides?
I’ve had an '12 S5, a '14 AR4 and will have a '15 S5. Aero frames give up nothing to traditional frames in terms of comfort. It “holds up” perfectly fine on long rides. I’ve done 6.5hrs in the mountains on the S5, AR4 and 6.5hrs in the mountains on a '13 CR1 and there is very little appreciable difference, if any.
I have a Giant Propel Advanced SL, I have also owned the Venge and the S5 and much prefer the propel. I had had no comfort issues what so ever on these bikes. They are fast.
I ride a 56 on my BMC. Not sure what that would be on a Giant.
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if this is turns into a classifieds thread, out it goes. if it becomes a theoretical discussion of the benefits of one aero road frame over another, then it stays.
Dan, did I miss something? I dont post to much, but is it ok to ask these questions?
it is absolutely fine for you to ask the questions, except that probably the WTB part of your title is misleading. typically WTS, WTB belongs in the classifieds forum, to which you can’t post as a “thread inceptor” because you’re new (there’s a waiting period before you can sell something in the classifieds forum, because the community there (here) wants to get to know you before it contemplates buying anything from you).
your question is absolutely appropriate. but an answer such as, “hey! i got an aero bike to sell you!” is not appropriate.
Thanks, haha, I have been on here for a while, just dont post much. I will edit the post
I’ve got a Felt AR5 2014 and it’s amazing to ride. With all the aero options out there I’d be curious why anybody would chose anything but an aero frame these days. They are fractionally heavier but significantly slipperier through the air when you’re putting the pedal to the medal. Perhaps maybe it’s tradition or misinformation that make some people doubt aero frames but in the end there is little price difference and a good adoption rate by cycling. Now if only we could get Canyon bikes you could add the aerorad CF SLX to that list but not quite yet 
Good luck and ride on!!
I am looking to get a Aero Raod frame, who has what and can provide some details and ride comfort of your bike. How does it hold up on long rides?
I love my 1-year-old Propel Advanced SL. It’s the same bike as the ill-fated seller guy but in a L. It’s extremely comfortable, very stiff under pedaling, climbs amazingly (even though I personally do not), and I rode it out to 10 hours this season. I understand it’s completely anecdotal and n=1, but riding in a peloton I felt that as soon as we got over 20mph, I was noticably faster than everybody around me. As soon as we went down a hill and it went >30, I was either rolling away from the group without pedaling or feathering the brakes constantly.
-Eric
I’m not sure what your budget is, but I just bought a 2015 Felt AR5 and absolutely love it, I can’t imagine finding a much better bike for under $2500. I came from an almost 20 year old giant, but relative to that it’s much more comfortable on long rides. Frame geometry is good for me and the vibration reducing seatpost thing they use really does seem to dampen out the road a bit. It’s certainly a noticeably faster bike whether it’s climbing or on flat ground, but again my old bike was really dated. The 11-speed 105 groupset is great.
I’d definitely recommend an aero road bike, I’d also looked at an S2 and propel and they were all similarly nice bikes, so I picked the Felt based on liking the geometry best, my perceived value of it relative to the others and my impression of the shop I bought it from.
Sorry Dan. I edited my posts.
Cervelo also makes decent aero road bikes. The new S5 and S3 are both excellent and worth test riding.
Some folks I ride with has the S3, S5, BMC, Felt something and Giant propel and they look slick and seem to be fast. As was said earlier, when going downhill some of them just roll easy and pass others without pedaling (could also be due to the aero wheels that most use). The only reason I haven’t upgraded to the aero frame is that my roadie is my training and all around bike, and I like seeing the 1-2mph+ difference when I use my tri bike. Though I’m giving my roadie (giant tcr 2009) an upgrade of aero/ergo handlebars and a bit aero and lighter wheelset just to freshen it up. I don’t think you’ll be disappointed with any of them as long as they fit you.
Anyone seen any good aero data on the Canyon Aerorad frame yet?
There is a bunch of good info archived here on ST if you do a bit of searching.
Like any other bike you need to make a list of all of your needs and see if there is a good fit for you.
List should include (rank these by your own importance).
1.) Aeroness- some are truly aero, some just look cool.
2.) Comfort- as you mentioned, ride is not so good on some.
3.) Fit- certain bikes have more or less stack- find one that works for your position. It is silly to buy aero but then have a compromised fit (though that is really true for any bike). An aero bike with a pile of spacers and an upturned stem is even sillier.
4.) User friendliness- does the bike you are buying fit the wheels and tires you like? Some newer bikes will take a bit larger of a tire. This is important to some. Brakes- some proprietary brakes are awful, some under chainstay brakes can be a pain- make sure that you have decided if the brake is worth it. Their are also many aero bikes out there that use a standard road brake. Same for cable routing- some aero bikes are pretty bad for mechanical shifters- seems that they are intending that you will use electronic. Rear dropouts and type of bb can also be considerations.
I am looking to get a Aero Raod frame, who has what and can provide some details and ride comfort of your bike. How does it hold up on long rides?
Unless you get something like a Trek Madone, the majority of comfort (95%+) will come down to tire pressure… so whatever frame you get, budget for some good wide aero wheels as well (assuming you’re going to race it).
The aero data I’ve seen on the S5 and AR indicate both are quite slippery 
I have a Propel Adv Pro 1 that I just got a month or so back. Due to crappy weather I have only 3 outdoor rides on it so far but the impressions are very very good. I am coming off of a Blue AC1-SL.
Overall the bike is pretty well thought out. Giant’s OEM wheels and bars are pretty decent. I do all my own wrenching but the learning curve was pretty steep on this bike. It has some proprietary quirks (1 1/4" steerer, v-brakes, etc) but in general it is pretty well though out. The LBS built it for me but in cutting cables and steerer I have had everything apart a few times. Brakes function very very well but can be finicky to set up and take a wider range of tools to work on.
Overall build was 17.5 lb with stock equipment for size L which is kind of portly but not horrible. Frame is comfortable and stiff in all the right ways.
Other bikes like the Foil and Cervelos will probably be easier to wrench on. Can’t speak for the Canyon.
Aside from fit, what you buy in the aero road market all depends on how much cash and pain-in-the-ass you are willing to trade for performance. Everyone’s break-even point is different.
I have not ridden a Felt…though I wish to very much. BMC, one ride…felt a little soft.
Giant Propel…I enjoyed it, but I found it more of a handful on a couple of steep technical descents I ride regularly. (speeds over 75km/h) And Marcel Kittel has had his share of issues with it!
Scott…I loved my Scott Foil Team Issue, love my Scott Addict Team Issue even more. The Addict is not very aero (nor is the Foil for that matter according to the data published in Tour Magazine a while back!), and I really noticed this when my P5 was in for maintenance and I was riding with a group of very fast triathlon bikes. (generally following somewhat legal following distances for drafting…but sometimes it become a rolling peleton of dangerous speed on aero bars.) But I think more than anything it’s the position of the road bike versus a tri bike where so much of the difference was made. If you do go for Scott, I highly recommend getting the HMX carbon over the HMF carbon versions, especially if you put down big power, have a large body mass, or like to grind. The HMF is noticeably softer than the HMX, (having owned a Foil 20 HMF and Team Issue HMX…same frame, just different carbon) without any improvement in comfort. (Though the Foil is FAR from an uncomfortable bike.) I agree with most…aero bikes are not a trade-off on comfort compared to “climbing” bikes…I would just say that the smaller tubes in my Addict mean the bike feels a little more alive when I first start to put power down on a climb.
Cervelo…I would certainly put that in the mix too. Based on what I’ve read here and elsewhere, it would be down to Felt and Cervelo for my money…with fit, price, value, service, and support being the deciding factors. Having said that, I truly love my Addict, and it, along with the Cervelo R5, did come out as the overall preferred bikes in the Tour comparison…but I couldn’t see this bike as my first choice at all if crit racing were in my future.