That is only the tip of your whole body of work!
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It isnât up to us to dispute that. It is up to her to prove it. The problem for her is part of her earlier defence was using a medical thesis (think it was from NZ but not sure) which confirms contamination can occur from bodily fluids but also states contamination is long lasting. Which contradicts her negative tests.
But twisting your argument around, surely she just didnât have sex on those 2 days of the positive test? What a bizarre coincidence that she didnât have sex at any other point to influence the other tests.
Simmonds doesnât have to âprove itâ. She has to present a case to the hearing sufficiently persuasive that, âon the balance of probabilityâ:
- the source/cause of the metabolites which generated the AAF was from her partnerâs bodily fluids transferred during sex,
- the scenario, including relationship with dates and activity is âbelievableâ
- the âtransfer mechanismâ is scientifically supported and consistent with the pico levels detected.
- her partner was consuming Ligandrol (properly conducted hair test evidence: you cannot make it up!)
- she was not aware of partnerâs Ligandrol consumption
- it is reasonable that partner had not shared this behaviour (NB he is not a designated ASP)
- she was reasonably not aware of this transfer mechanism/risk (the anti-drug education packages (WADA and SSI, current in 2024) do not include this as a hazard/risk)
- neither the lack of knowledge of partnerâs Ligandrol consumption nor the lack of knowledge of this transfer mechanism/risk was negligence
âThe problem for her . . . . contradicts her negative testsâ
Typical Detection Window â Based on current research, Ligandrol can be detected (urine test) in the system for approximately 22-30 days after the last dose.
What is the LGD-4033 Half-life? â The half-life of Ligandrol is around 24-36 hours.
The 22-30 days figure above is âof courseâ for gym-bunnies taking several mg each day. Simmonds tested no detectable trace on 2nd December and 30th December and AAF on 8th December (with Taupo on 13th).
It is plausible that the âpicoâ amounts transferred during sex would decay below LOD in hours/a day. (Which is why (ie explains why she shared) Simmonds said that they had had sex evening of the 7th AND am on the 8th.) I suggest that considering why the two of them hadnât had sex before the 2nd or the 30th is whataboutery.
From what Iâve read, âmicrodosingâ will give zero benefit, and thatâs notwithstanding that the effects of SARM are not ones that an endurance athlete would seek âanywayâ.
And for @kajet - please reintroduce us to pineapples (see upthread)
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Have to hand it to you man, god knows how many hours you have spent in this thread arguing on her behalf for free (or so I think). Hopefully her lawyers are working as hard given how expensive they are billing her for the work.
But, you put a lot of âfactsâ which are basically hearsay and assumptions.
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Replying to you, as itâs the latest of the sex jokes:
This thread has officially jumped the shark. Giving yâall 24 hours to get the jokes out and then weâll lock this one (till we get some more definitive news).
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Thank you.
If what youâre saying is accurate, itâs pretty cut and dry and the case should be closed and we all move on.
Iâd think if so, then sheâd have her answer by now. What purpose is served by dragging it out?
Maybe that will be the end result and the authorities here know that and also know her excuse is BS and they are making the process punishment before they clear her.
So they also are communicating to other athletes through this ordeal. Ya, you may get off 
, but youâre going to pay for it one way and another.
Understood. Weâll make this the final thrust before the thread goes limp.
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PleaseâŚjust wrap it up.
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You said we had 24 hours. Might as well lock it now then.
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Good one.
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i always hated it when a parent walked in
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FINE Dad, here you go
Imogen may have gone long in more ways than one, but who knew bedroom cardio could land you in hot water with WADA? If this story holds, she didnât so much dope as she absorbed some questionable fluids off the course. Talk about being caught between the sheets and a hard place.
Letâs be honest, no one likes getting burned for something they didnât knowingly put in their bodyâbut when your defense includes âI tested positive from a particularly passionate session,â itâs hard not to raise an eyebrow⌠or several. I guess thatâs one way to get intimate with a banned substance.
And while most of us are worried about watts and splits, Imogenâs been doing interval training of another kindâthough apparently, her partnerâs substance delivery system had more than just good intentions behind it.
To be fair, this isnât the first time someoneâs ride partner got them in trouble. But usually, itâs for drafting, not substance exchange via direct deposit. Clearly, this was not your average biological passport issueâmore like a romantic customs violation.
As the saying goes, âYou are what you eatâ⌠or in this case, who you⌠well, you get the idea. She may have just been swimming in the wrong pool, and now sheâs drowning in paperwork.
Still, if her defense holds up, we might need a new WADA protocol: post-coital testing exemptions and boyfriend clearance forms. Maybe the next generation of anti-doping education will come with condoms and a warning label: âMay cause unintentional disqualifications if used recklessly.â
Letâs hope the tribunal doesnât get too stiff about it. After all, itâs not every day that a positive test results from a close-contact relay exchange. If this is the new frontier of doping violations, athletes might have to start tracking their bed partners like power meters*.
In the end, whether sheâs guilty, unlucky, or just got caught with her bib down, one thingâs certainâthis case is going to leave a mark. Probably not as long as a ban, but definitely long enough to rub the community the wrong way.
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Ballsy move. Nobody likes a boner.
Pretty sure liking a boner is Imoâs entire defense.
This comment had potential, but you pulled out too early.
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Thatâs got chatgpt written all over it. I suggest you ask it to write in a particular tone or style so it doesnât resort to itâs banal colloquialism. Speaking of words that rhyme with banalâŚ
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Yeah, cringey read, that one. Human creativity still wins. The cream will always rise to the top.