IM France-Nice

WOW I think 2008 is going to be a great year for this race. in 2006 there were barely 800 finishers and the entry was down to 1100 (from 1400 in 2005 the inaugural year). 2007 was much better and the entry was back up to 1400 again. But this year their limit if 1800 was reached before Christmas. They annouced that they would continue to work with the town of Nice to expand the capacity of the course and now there are 2589 competitors signed up. There are 147 from Ironmex and we have 27 form our club traveling down from Paris. The atmosphere is going to be huge.

I know the size of the field irks some people, but I think its awesome. Sure the swim worried me a bit so but I’m spending a lot of time at the pool at the moment to avoid trouble on June 22nd so I should be alright. Nice has the most awesome bike course on the circuit. I’m glad this event has been such a success after just 4 years and I’m looking forward to a fantastic day.

Any other STers in for Nice???

If the bike course is anything like the bike course for Long Course Worlds that I did there in 2001, the bike course is up up up up up… up and switchback after switchback down… very interesting to say the least. It was 75 miles.

WOW I think 2008 is going to be a great year for this race. in 2006 there were barely 800 finishers and the entry was down to 1100 (from 1400 in 2005 the inaugural year). 2007 was much better and the entry was back up to 1400 again. But this year their limit if 1800 was reached before Christmas. They annouced that they would continue to work with the town of Nice to expand the capacity of the course and now there are 2589 competitors signed up. There are 147 from Ironmex and we have 27 form our club traveling down from Paris. The atmosphere is going to be huge.

I know the size of the field irks some people, but I think its awesome. Sure the swim worried me a bit so but I’m spending a lot of time at the pool at the moment to avoid trouble on June 22nd so I should be alright. Nice has the most awesome bike course on the circuit. I’m glad this event has been such a success after just 4 years and I’m looking forward to a fantastic day.

Any other STers in for Nice???

Yeah, I’m looking forward to IMF also. I’m doing the race along with 3 of my training buddies. It will be my first IM. The bike course looks interesting.

-richard

I’m in for IM France. Not very ahppy about 2500+ registered. Thats even more than Canada. I was expecting 1800-2000 They’re are counting on 10%+ no shows. I remember IMC 2003 when everybody showed up. The long climbs on what appear to be rural roads could be a bit of a zoo.

NOPE, WTC had the bike course dumbed down for the masses…much flatter than the classic Nice course…my biggest regret in triathlon is never having raced the old Nice Triathlon.

Here’s the story I wrote on Simon Lessing and Mark Allen going toe toe in Nice back in 1993!

http://www.xtri.com/reports.aspx?riIDReport=3966&CAT=0&xref=xx

The website says they would stop taking registrations at 2400. Guess the temptation to keep accepting the $ in too great.

http://www.xtri.com/reports.aspx?riIDReport=3966&CAT=0&xref=xx

GREAT article! Very engaging. Thanks for the link! I’m so glad I got a chance to do that course before it disappeared into history.

Simon’s a machine with a capital M

***I threw up all my breakfast due to pure nerves. I could not hold anything down, I tried to eat again but I ended up throwing up again just before the start. ***


In actual fact I did Nice in 1993 on no breakfast, half a banana and about 8 Leppin Squeezies.


Outstanding interview Dev. well managed and great questions. Thanks for sharing

btw my buddy was one of the velospectators cycling along the promenade that day. He says he clocked Mark Allan at 21Km/h on the surge where he finally broke Simon.

btw I think the current course is great. There is still 2200m of climbing to do and some outstanding views. However the run is the worst part of IM nice. If they make that more similar to the old race where they went out to Antibes then it would be much more interesting.
I’ve done 7 IMs and of them as I’ve improved I’ve managed to run 3 of the marathons without walking. IMUK, IMLou and Kona. Of the 4 where I ended up walking some or all there was IMSA (where I blew up completely) and 3 x IM France. I haven’t broken that 4 loop run yet. Mentally it’s really tough.

I’m in. I’m shocked/suprised to hear that there are so many registered. I signed up as soon as it opened, only because I wanted to lock in our travel plans well in advance. Part of the reason that I chose this race was that it was a small field in previous years - looks like I made the wrong assumption that the trend would continue.

In any case, I’m really excited for this race. The bike course looks to be a good challenge - and incredibly scenic. Also, it’ll be my first international IM (IMC doesn’t count as international). Only concern I have is that my A race (IMAZ) is a scant 9 weeks before Nice.

When Slowman told me 2004 was the last year for the older Nice Triathlon, the original event with the weird distance (2.4 mile swim, 80 mile bike, 18 mile run I think) two weeks before the event I immediately booked a ticket and went to the race.

It was freakin’ killer. The swim was super cool, one huge loop out in the Mediteranean. The bike was even better- the climb up the Col d’ Vence was awesome. I recall I was on that climb for an hour. A buddy of mine who *won *the Tour de France told me the descent off the Col de Vence was the hardest descent he ever did. There was one section with 16 switchbacks in 5 kms. Hair raising.

The run was incredible. That coastline is awesome. And don’t even get me started on the restauarants and cafe’s around there. It is very expensive- and totally worth it. One of the best trips I ever went on.

I wrote this about the race:

"I don’t know the name of the road, I can’t speak French and I passed the sign at over 35 M.P.H. so I couldn’t read it anyway. Unloading off the final climb in the 2004 Isostar Nice Triathlon in Nice, France I traced a ballistic trajectory through the alpine corners from apex to apex. They are narrow and dangerous. I am a poor descender. Complete concentration. Around one bend the road was littered with victims of a mishap. A European ambulance horn beeped and wailed up the canyon in the distance. They flashed by in a blur; one man’s face, streaked in blood.

Toward the bottom I glanced down on a river, hurtled into the valley and shot across the flats to a widening road. The course dumped me down a freeway on-ramp. I was on an empty freeway headed back to the Riviera. They had closed an entire freeway for us to race on. Only in France. I was with three men, none spoke English. Racing down into the yawning maw of a two-story high underground freeway tunnel, the longest in France, we would complete the final miles underground on a bike course that already crossed over the tops of two mountain passes. We were swallowed by darkness. Once inside the tunnel we became projectiles. The coastal wind fed the tunnel like exploding gunpowder pushing human bullets along a three mile rifle barrel. Like cannon shells accelerating along their rifling grooves our velocity accumulated; 28 M.P.H., 30 M.P.H., 35 M.P.H. It was effortless. And it was oddly isolated; just three other racers and I in the closing miles of the bike headed back toward T2 to begin the idyllic run along the most beautiful coastline in Europe, the Cote d’ Azur, on the French Riviera. The strange acoustics in the dark tunnel amplified every mechanical whir and whiz. Between my sunglasses and the dark tunnel I was a human bullet traveling toward the blinding gold light at the muzzle.

And then we surfaced.

The underground freeway tunnel canted abruptly upward and we rocketed into blinding sunshine on the spectacular coastline. The noise hit us like running into a white marble wall. There must have been 100,000 of them, and they were all screaming for us. The roar was deafening. Women in bikinis, people with white dogs. Men in dashing, light colored suits and rakish sunglasses, spectators dressed in sports clothes and bathing costumes. And there were the cameras. When we burst from the dark tunnel up into the burning French sunlight a hundred cameras hit us. In under a second I had my photo taken more times than in the entire previous year. After the oddly quiet tunnel the eruption into sunlight and exaltation was so powerful it startled me. I felt an adrenaline infusion like never in my life. They screamed at us, “Allez, ALLEZ!” The coast opened up to a brilliant, crystalline Mediterranean. The road along the Promenade Des Anglais was flanked by crowd barriers and behind them the spectators were three deep for miles. Welcome, My Friend, back to Nice. It is time to run."

And this:

http://www.bikesportmichigan.com/editorials/0000068.shtml

I was there for LDWC as well. It was an amazing course, but as you say, the descents were terrorizing. I am planning on going back some year, especially for the food! Great spectators as well.

Nice is one course where I wouldn’t worry about entry numbers: The swim start is the best I’ve ever done. There is no pressure on space, so there is a nice wide start, there is a long drag to the firt buoy, and they set you off from cages with Pro’s in the middle, with Sub 1Hr swimmers either side, and then Sub 1:10 eiether side of that and so on, so that when the gun goes off, everybody sets off in a chevron type effect, with the quickest guys in the middle. It remains the cleanest start I’ve ever done.

On the bike, whilst it might get a bit busy for the first 15-20 Km, the hills will soon sort out the men from the boys, and as the course is a big loop, there shouldn’t be any issues.

The run is tough as Gandalf says, not because of the loops in my book, but because you can see every one of the 42Km’s you’re goin to run, from everywhere on the course. However, the more people on there the better in my opinion; giving you something to race against and look at. That is of course if looking at the sights on the Beach isn’t enough for you!

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Only concern I have is that my A race (IMAZ) is a scant 9 weeks before Nice.
Ditto mate, although IMAZ is my ‘A’ race for the year.

yes this event looks awesome.

here is a link to many great images of the 2007 ironaman Nice and the race results.

http://www.triathlonshots.com/nice.html

I did the last long distance and the first IM the following year. Differrent course, but still challenging if you push it. I also had the chance to be a spectator in 1992 (Cordier pushing Allen who fought back a 9’ deficit on the run (30km) and don’t forget PNF majestic destroying the field and in 1993. In both cases I followed the runners on my bike, and yes at some points Mark Allen was VERY fast. In the old course there was a slight downhill on the way back (beyond the airport for those who know the current format) and both PNF and Mark Allen were really flying at this point. Great memories, and a great race I recommend. I will race this year, but I am not too sure about the swim. In the old format the swim (already 3.8km) was a single loop with the first turn something around a km after the start, so the (smaller) field was well spread out. The new format is 2 loops and the first turn is much closer. If they don’t seed people it’s not going to be fun. They say the sea is big enough, true, but they have to use a good chunk of it! Anyway, good luck to everybody, maybe we can arrange a ST meeting.

That was great, the imagery was fabulous! When can we expect your latest novel? I think a good title would be ‘Bourne Triathlon’ :slight_smile:

-richard

Nice is one course where I wouldn’t worry about entry numbers: The swim start is the best I’ve ever done. There is no pressure on space, so there is a nice wide start, there is a long drag to the firt buoy, and they set you off from cages with Pro’s in the middle, with Sub 1Hr swimmers either side, and then Sub 1:10 eiether side of that and so on, so that when the gun goes off, everybody sets off in a chevron type effect, with the quickest guys in the middle. It remains the cleanest start I’ve ever done.

On the bike, whilst it might get a bit busy for the first 15-20 Km, the hills will soon sort out the men from the boys, and as the course is a big loop, there shouldn’t be any issues.

The run is tough as Gandalf says, not because of the loops in my book, but because you can see every one of the 42Km’s you’re goin to run, from everywhere on the course. However, the more people on there the better in my opinion; giving you something to race against and look at. That is of course if looking at the sights on the Beach isn’t enough for you!

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Ditto for all. I’ve swum BOP, MOP and last year in the first 25%. It was a little hairy for the first 10 mins but the first turn isn’t for 800 metres so there is plently of time for the field to get settled and plently of opportunity to swim wide if the washing machine is not your cup of tea.

Bike, again from a BOP, MOP and FOP ride I’ve never seen any drafting. The course is not a drafters course, there is the greatest presence of motorcycle refs that I have seen on any course and they do hand out penalties if needed (Tim DeBoom and Herve Faure got them in 2005.

The thing about the run is as you say, you can see the whole course laid out before you. You are very hot and the sea is along side you a few metres away the whole time. So tempting. Also consider the following. When you first get out on the course (anytime after 6h20) then the leaders are on their second lap. So basically everyone you see on the course is going faster than you. Then you hit the end of your first lap and the people coming out of T2 tend to start off a bit fast and are probably going faster than you (for a while). Now I’ve studied the splits and the 3rd lap is systematically the slowest one for everyone. Thus again be prepared to get passed by those coming out of T2. It’s probably not until you hit the end of the 3rd lap or the 4th lap when you feel like you are making progress versus the field. It’s tough man. I’ve not mastered the run at Nice…yet.

Coming out from California w/ my wife and three daughters for the race, beginning a three week London/Nice/Milan/Venice/Florence/Rome/Paris tour. This will be my second IM, having completed IM Ariz. last year. Any tips for the tour or the race itself?

Coming out from California w/ my wife and three daughters for the race, beginning a three week London/Nice/Milan/Venice/Florence/Rome/Paris tour. This will be my second IM, having completed IM Ariz. last year. Any tips for the tour or the race itself?
For the tour, you have chosen some outstanding places to visit. I hope you get to make the most of each one. London, OK the usual tourist stuff, but why not take in a show (Queen-We Will Rock You by Ben Elton for example). Florence is wonderful if you can get to Sienna about 100Km away that is well worth a visit. Paris… well I live here so what can I say. I love the restaurants in the area near Saint Sulpice, also Montmartre. Biggest waste of time is Jim Morrison’s gave at Pierre Lachaise. I love being on the Champs Elysees late in the evening, the place has a vibrancy about it, almost (but not quite) the energy of Manhattan

As for the Nice race, I’m going to be writing a series of tips for my club mates, many of whom are attempting the distance for the first time. I’ll add a message on this thread with the link when I’ve published.

Wow! As amazing as that must have been, you really captured the spirit of your experience for the rest of us.

Thanks for the contribution, I really enjoyed reading that.