Kinda glad I have never bothered with suffering through one. This article suggests there is new research suggesting they are:
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/university-of-auckland/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503679&objectid=11877370
when training under brett sutton, he didnt want anyone to do ice bath. after hard session…he would want us to go ‘‘cool off’’ in a hot bath… to keep muscle loose and relax.
i personally have seem much better recovery with hot bath vs cold one…and have been pushing athletes towards that i most circonstances… that s my experience on the field with athletes recovery. no data!
My understanding is they are a good short-term recovery tool and can help you bounce back from a hard session to go again (later that day or the next), but not productive for making long-term gains.
That article is from 2015, the study referenced in the article appears to be from 2017.
Here is a link:
Study this study that… some people like ice baths let them be. I’m forced to ice bath daily during the school year and i do honestly feel like it helps the recovery process. Whether it’s just the fact that it wakes me up after a workout or that there is some real science behind it; I’m a supporter. Is it going to make you a better athlete? No… neither is spending thousands of dollars for compression boots or massage therapy. It’s funny cause coming to triathlon from a strictly running point of view a lot of you triathletes are very picky and technologically advanced in places where it isn’t really necessary. People posting about needing special liquids and gels for their bike leg, I’m fine with just some diluted Gatorade and water. Long ride? Maybe some more Gatorade and whatever snack is in my closet.
Study this study that… some people like ice baths let them be. I’m forced to ice bath daily during the school year and i do honestly feel like it helps the recovery process. Whether it’s just the fact that it wakes me up after a workout or that there is some real science behind it; I’m a supporter. Is it going to make you a better athlete? No… neither is spending thousands of dollars for compression boots or massage therapy. It’s funny cause coming to triathlon from a strictly running point of view a lot of you triathletes are very picky and technologically advanced in places where it isn’t really necessary. People posting about needing special liquids and gels for their bike leg, I’m fine with just some diluted Gatorade and water. Long ride? Maybe some more Gatorade and whatever snack is in my closet.
well shut it all down folks, the 19 year old is telling us we’re all doing it wrong.
Study this study that… some people like ice baths let them be. I’m forced to ice bath daily during the school year and i do honestly feel like it helps the recovery process. Whether it’s just the fact that it wakes me up after a workout or that there is some real science behind it; I’m a supporter. Is it going to make you a better athlete? No… neither is spending thousands of dollars for compression boots or massage therapy. It’s funny cause coming to triathlon from a strictly running point of view a lot of you triathletes are very picky and technologically advanced in places where it isn’t really necessary. People posting about needing special liquids and gels for their bike leg, I’m fine with just some diluted Gatorade and water. Long ride? Maybe some more Gatorade and whatever snack is in my closet.
well shut it all down folks, the 19 year old is telling us we’re all doing it wrong.
He probably has the right of it, but he doesn’t understand yet the entertainment value of being obsessive. 30yrs from now, when he’s been married for decades and getting laid 1-2x a month, he’ll find entertainment value in things that would now bore him to death.
Oh to be 19 again. But smarter. I don’t want to again be as dumb as I was when I was 19.
That article is from 2015, the study referenced in the article appears to be from 2017.
Here is a link:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27704555
Yup that was my reason for posting the link - there have been quite a few academic studies over the last 3-4 years suggesting it blunts adaptations.
And I’ll be the first to admit we used it (albeit ad hoc) for a year leading into Beijing 2008. And just as the poster above has stated, the subject in question (wife) perceived faster recovery from key sessions after hot n cold & iced baths, although research would now suggest otherwise it was just that - perceived.
I wasn’t really saying your doing it wrong just said I found it interesting how technical you guys make the sport. Maybe if I mentioned that I actually enjoy the technicality of the sport and I’m excited to learn more about it as I’m new to triathlons. Instead of assuming my opinion of it and bashing me maybe you should be more open minded. Anyways the main point of my comment was supposed to entail that everyone is different and that it’s not always about doing what others say helps or doesn’t help rather it’s what you personally believe. Think we’d all agree that one thing doesn’t necessarily work or not work for everyone.
P.S my times speak for themselves, I think I have every right to voice my idealogy and training experiences with the success that I’ve had.
Cellular adaption aside, one benefit I have found from them is helping to bring the core temperature down quickly when training through a Texas summer. If an athlete is doing multiple sessions in a day the body’s thermostat is running on overdrive all the time trying to stay cool. Using an ice bath to quickly lower that core temp (just like after a hot race) can quickly help reset back to normal.
“been married for decades and getting laid 1-2x a month”
You absolute stud…
I wasn’t really saying your doing it wrong just said I found it interesting how technical you guys make the sport. Maybe if I mentioned that I actually enjoy the technicality of the sport and I’m excited to learn more about it as I’m new to triathlons. Instead of assuming my opinion of it and bashing me maybe you should be more open minded. Anyways the main point of my comment was supposed to entail that everyone is different and that it’s not always about doing what others say helps or doesn’t help rather it’s what you personally believe. Think we’d all agree that one thing doesn’t necessarily work or not work for everyone.
P.S my times speak for themselves, I think I have every right to voice my idealogy and training experiences with the success that I’ve had.
Whoah tiger, ease the reigns mr successful.
"He probably has the right of it, but he doesn’t understand yet the entertainment value of being obsessive. 30yrs from now, when he’s been married for decades and getting laid 1-2x a month, he’ll find entertainment value in things that would now bore him to death.
Oh to be 19 again. But smarter. I don’t want to again be as dumb as I was when I was 19."
This got dark pretty quickly.
"He probably has the right of it, but he doesn’t understand yet the entertainment value of being obsessive. 30yrs from now, when he’s been married for decades and getting laid 1-2x a month, he’ll find entertainment value in things that would now bore him to death.
Oh to be 19 again. But smarter. I don’t want to again be as dumb as I was when I was 19."
This got dark pretty quickly.
Just for clarity, I was not intending to be critical of the youngster. He made his point just fine. I was a knucklehead when I was 19, just like most everyone else at that age. Non-knucklehead 19yr olds certainly do exist, and I’d be happy to accept that he could be one of them. I was just making a joke, and jokes should poke at yourself, not at others.
I wasn’t really saying your doing it wrong just said I found it interesting how technical you guys make the sport. Maybe if I mentioned that I actually enjoy the technicality of the sport and I’m excited to learn more about it as I’m new to triathlons. Instead of assuming my opinion of it and bashing me maybe you should be more open minded. Anyways the main point of my comment was supposed to entail that everyone is different and that it’s not always about doing what others say helps or doesn’t help rather it’s what you personally believe. Think we’d all agree that one thing doesn’t necessarily work or not work for everyone.
P.S my times speak for themselves, I think I have every right to voice my idealogy and training experiences with the success that I’ve had.
Aren’t you the guy that hasn’t even raced a tri yet? I get that you are a talented runner but doing very long is a different game entirely.
Anyways the main point of my comment was supposed to entail that everyone is different and that it’s not always about doing what others say helps or doesn’t help rather it’s what you personally believe. Think we’d all agree that one thing doesn’t necessarily work or not work for everyone.
Actually on a cellular level were fitness adaptations occur we are all effectively identical. There are a myriad of training protocols that apply to everyone.
All in jest (that’s how I read your post – thus the pink). I laughed and looked inward a little. 
Sometimes I think Tris for the 40-60 set are just one big support group for a mid-life crisis.
I wasn’t really saying your doing it wrong just said I found it interesting how technical you guys make the sport. Maybe if I mentioned that I actually enjoy the technicality of the sport and I’m excited to learn more about it as I’m new to triathlons. Instead of assuming my opinion of it and bashing me maybe you should be more open minded. Anyways the main point of my comment was supposed to entail that everyone is different and that it’s not always about doing what others say helps or doesn’t help rather it’s what you personally believe. Think we’d all agree that one thing doesn’t necessarily work or not work for everyone.
P.S my times speak for themselves, I think I have every right to voice my idealogy and training experiences with the success that I’ve had.
Aren’t you the guy that hasn’t even raced a tri yet? I get that you are a talented runner but doing very long is a different game entirely.
Let me know why triathlon or running have to do with recovery techniques being effective or not. The level that I compete at in running surpasses the average triathlete on this fo uk and being that we use identical recovery techniques for identical reasons I’d say it’s safe to say that I have every right to have my opinion heard just as much as the next guys. Just cause I’m not 40+ years old doesn’t mean I don’t know what does or does not work for me.
I wasn’t really saying your doing it wrong just said I found it interesting how technical you guys make the sport. Maybe if I mentioned that I actually enjoy the technicality of the sport and I’m excited to learn more about it as I’m new to triathlons. Instead of assuming my opinion of it and bashing me maybe you should be more open minded. Anyways the main point of my comment was supposed to entail that everyone is different and that it’s not always about doing what others say helps or doesn’t help rather it’s what you personally believe. Think we’d all agree that one thing doesn’t necessarily work or not work for everyone.
P.S my times speak for themselves, I think I have every right to voice my idealogy and training experiences with the success that I’ve had.
Aren’t you the guy that hasn’t even raced a tri yet? I get that you are a talented runner but doing very long is a different game entirely.
Let me know why triathlon or running have to do with recovery techniques being effective or not. The level that I compete at in running surpasses the average triathlete on this fo uk and being that we use identical recovery techniques for identical reasons I’d say it’s safe to say that I have every right to have my opinion heard just as much as the next guys. Just cause I’m not 40+ years old doesn’t mean I don’t know what does or does not work for me.
Relax there… I was more referring to your point about special gels and other nutrition being unnecessary. I should have clarified.