I can’t seem to be able to find in my bookmarked places for an on-line domestic source for Dugast tyres. I want to race on the best.
google is your friend:
http://www.thebikebarn.com.au/racing_tyres.htm
http://www.velostore.com/cgi-local/swcart.pl/page=route-pneu-g16.html/SID=_MYSID_
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you and me both, buddy.
I rode them a hundred years ago, but my secret handshakes and other skills aren’t applicable like they used to be. But I did find the web address before you posted. But thanks for helping me.
I wonder what they charge for shipping? No mention of VAT, either. hmmmm…
no VAT for the Bunnyman…you live this side of the pond
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holy crap…their high end silk road tire is nearly $250CAN. Damn and I thought tubies were expensive before. I’d have to hire a personal tire repainman every time I got a flat. They better last 5 times longer than a TUFO or I just don’t see the justification. Ouch
The justification is that they are one of the legendary parts in the sport. I’m not saying that they are better than any other premium tubular, but they are meant for the true aficionado. Right up their with lightweight wheels, shmolke(sp) handlebars, etc.
Styrrell
good point…like being linked to the history of it all…I’d like to have the money to be so nostalgic. Sure hope he’s putting them on his Mavic tubie rims, with high flange Campy hubs under his retro built Colnago.
Well, most of the Dugast tires don’t get more than 100 miles tops. They don’t last nearly as long as a normal Tufo. My math being that probably 80-90% of their production goes to track or cross riders. With an average cross race being 1 hr plus one lap. I would bet 4 races are pretty close to the high end on race tires in tough cross conditions.
The track tires a hundred miles is a season of racing for people using those light of tires. I haven’t seen them much on the tri venues, or for that matter the road cycling folks either. I am sure on the big budget teams the fast guys use them sometimes. There was another French guy Dourdainge(sp) that was either related or major competitor to Dugast. I used to use their tires on occasion and almost cried when they were done in by a scrap of glass.
The really nice thing about those quality of tire is the roundness on the rim, with no hops or jumps at all. G
“I haven’t seen them much on the tri venues, or for that matter the road cycling folks either.”
Well, you HAVE seen them, they just have a different logo on them; Dugast tires have been on the wheels of the winning bike of that big bike race in France for - what was it again? - Six years…
Dugast shuts down normal production for a couple of months every year and cranks out a run of pro tires with different labels on them (you know, like M------n, and H-------n, and V------a…)
It is very true that these tires are generally not built for durability, but for sheer performance. They are incredibly supple, and have exceptionally low rolling resistance - kind of the opposite of a Tufo, in just about every respect.
A. Dugast was actually an employee of Dourdoigne before he (Dugast) went into business for himself a couple of years before Dourdoigne went bankrupt. Dugast himself actually retired a year or two ago, but an employee/colleague took over the business, and has been working to expand it (as evidenced by, EG, the webstore.)
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I have not" seen" any Pro men’s bikes in several years. I know they rebadge tyres all the time and that the yellow band guy does use them. My semantics meant that I personally have not seen them on any bikes I have examined. I am fortunate to be able to look at a lot of the Pro tri bikes first hand, and have not seen any that I can recall. However, you can go to a local cross or track venue as “see” a bunch of them that got paid for by the rider using them. Now that is liking a tire. If I ever get going to the higher levels again, I would buy them in a second. But a 10 cent rider doesn’t need a 150$ tire. Aloha G
They have always bought tread bands of different manufacturers, like Vittoria, etc. The last ones I had were Vittoria CX tread bands with a silk casing.
I never thought much of their durability with the exception of the feel of the silk casing. I ride about 100-150 racing miles on my tubs before I relegate them to being spares. I would say their models for Paris-Robaix would probably be the toughest ones.
I used to know the secret handshake. A friend of a friend would get them for me. I am just so happy that I can get them without having to go through the hassle, now.
I imagine that they also shut down three weeks for holiday, just like every other business in Europe. I just wish that we took on that practise in America; oh, yeah! I do…
No retro Colnagos here that I ride. Mine is actually in storage. Mine is an old, old track bike without the rainbow stripes, and it has the old “C” logo. It has beautiful wooden rims, cotton handlebar tape, steel track bars, and very old Campy track gruppo. It has not seen the light of day in about five years.
I was meaning if there was a discount on the price since there was no VAT to be paid.
I end up with lots of schwag by the fact that nobody in England wants to fill out the paperwork for VAT refund.
One of the “upgrades” to Dugast under the new management is that they are now manufacturing/purchasing tread bands of their own design.
The Paris Roubaix tubular is essentially a road version of the Cyclocross tire, and it is tough, but not all that durable (IMHOP.) The tire is designed to be hard to flat, but that is different from being durable. It’s a race tire. It’s not designed to be on your wheel for 2000 miles, and it won’t give you nearly the lifespan of most of the tubulars on the market - which have been “consumer-ised” to meet peoples lifespan expectations for a product of this type, with some attendant decrease in pure performance - 'cause you can’t have it both ways…
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So has Richard Nieuhaus (sp? new owner) figured out that US orders don’t get charged VAT yet? When I ordered tires direct last year he charged VAT and I couldn’t convince him otherwise despite emailed copies of NL and EU regulations. They were still not much more than Veloflex are in the US so I didn’t cry too much, though I haven’t done another order yet either.
Delivery was 3 weeks to my door, though he did say it can sometimes be up to 8 depending on how well he guesses demand.
They are amazing tires. You can feel the difference in the casing just holding them in your hands when you pull them out of the box. It definitely shows/feels in the ride.
A. Dugast was actually an employee of Dourdoigne before he (Dugast) went into business for himself a couple of years before Dourdoigne went bankrupt. Dugast himself actually retired a year or two ago, but an employee/colleague took over the business, and has been working to expand it (as evidenced by, EG, the webstore.)
A couple of Dutch guys (I believe there was a cyclocross connection) bought out Dugast, and I understand he now does some work or consulting for them. They may be made in Holland now.