I hope USC puts 100 on ND

14-0 early, ND is so overrated.

They sure looked tough against Navy :slight_smile:

Me too. Down with the Irish. Brady Quinn is soooo overrated.

Has notre dame played coast guard this year? When do they play the merchant marines?

Bring on USC!! Doesn’t matter what team the Mighty Buckeye plays-same result…

I’m more tired of UF fans down here pulling the SEC crap, saying that they deserve to be playing in the BCS championship. I tell them two things: 1) Win the SEC title first before anything , and 2) OSU plays who is scheduled, and we haven’t lost.

I was thinking of going camping next weekend and cant find my tent. I was wondering if I could borrow Charlie Weis’s grey sweatshirt.

A local circus has already reserved it.

Well Notre Dame is rated #6, and when they have played Top 10 teams they lost 47-21 to Michigan, and they are down 21-3 to USC, but Notre Dame is not a fraud.

Nice to see that Bob Davie can speak eloquently while have Brady Quinn’s you know what in his mouth. “No player is more important to his team than Brady Quinn. What he has done the past four years is very valuable.”

"They sure looked tough against Navy :slight_smile: "

We had 'em on the ropes. They needed to get a big time NFL coach to win the 41st and 42nd times,…in a row. Crap.

uh oh.

booty needs to get his booty in gear.

The only time I root for the University of Spoiled Children, is when they play Norte Dame.

:slight_smile:

Woo Hoo! 28-10 :slight_smile:

Yeah - we weren’t sure if the laminated sheet in front of him was his playbook or a Denny’s menu. I figured after that kick return by Cushing, he was probably ordering another moons-over-my-hammy and some hash browns smothered and covered and maybe a sundae. and some chili cheese fries.

Disclaimer: I own some Notre Dame clothing. =) But, I own A LOT of college logo clothing.

  1. Notre Dame has 1-loss. They’re ranked about right.

  2. Notre Dame has played 3 ranked teams … they thumped #19 Penn State, Lost big to Michigan and USC.

Rather than conclude “Notre Dame is over-rated” (understanding those thathate ND because they have so many fans), they logical conclusion should be, “There is a B-I-G difference between the top 3 teams and the rest of the nation” (Top 4 if you want to include Florida whose only loss is to a very good Auburn team). I think Arkansas, Texas, The Big East, etc have shown that to be true.

Now, about Brady Quinn.

  1. He’s good.

  2. He is a Heisman candidate (or was)

Again, rather than jump to the conclusion that “He’s over-rated”, the logical conclusion should be “Troy Smith is far in front of everyone else that there really shouldn’t even be a #2 candidate”.

Quinn would be over-rated if anyone was seriusly having the conversation that the Heisman was up for grabs. In all intensive purposes, the Heisman was won on opening day and put away last week.


Now, about Ohio State’s opponent for the NC …

Michigan – 11-1 , only loss to #1 OSU by 3 points. Blew out ND who was #2 at the time.

USC – 10-1, only loss to unranked Oregon State. 4-0 against ranked teams. Matched Michigan’s thumping of ND. Beat 3 unranked teams by 7 points or less.

Florida – 11-1 (could be 12-1 after SEC championship game). 2-1 against ranked teams (lost to #11 Auburn), and they still play #5 Arkansas in SEC championship. Toughest football conference in nation.

So, here’s how it plays out …

Do you punish Michigan for losing to the #1 team by 3 points ON THE ROAD.

Do you reward USC when they lost to an unranked team?

Does Florida earn a shot when/if they win the toughest conf in NCAAF, and their only loss is to a team that was highly ranked all year?

Screw it … OSU v. Florida, Mich v. USC … winners play for title.

I understand why people are saying it’s USC … but, I’m not quite sure I understand why they are more deserving than Michigan and (especially) Florida.

As a side, watching the game and after Quinn got hurt, my lipreading skills came in handy.

After his first ta teammate on the sidelines (to test him arm), he mouths “Oh, F— me” (I know that feeling, it’s not desirable). So, then what does he do … takes it out on his teammate (who’s likely not sure Brady should throw another ball) by shouting “Throw the ball”.

Quinn’s OFM comment made me chuckle. That had to be when reality really set in for him.

Florida – 11-1 (could be 12-1 after SEC championship game). 2-1 against ranked teams (lost to #11 Auburn), and they still play #5 Arkansas in SEC championship. Toughest football conference in nation.

I take exception to that. The teams in the SEC all beat each other, and schedule cupcakes out of conference. Who did Florida play out of conference? Western Carolina???

Who did Arkansas play (USC throttled them by 40) ?

Tenessee played an overrated Cal.

LSU played Lousiana Lafayette (1-AA) and Tulane?? Come on

Just because the SEC beats up on each other does not mean they are great. They need to start playing at least 1 real out of conference team or else there is no way to gauge how good the conference is. Remeber the bowl record for them is VERY suspect.

Ah, TT, it’s been a while, and all I can say is the bar owner will love us if we ever have these discussions over a few beers…

Like I’ve said before, Quinn has some talent, but so does Chris Leak, Drew Stanton, John David Booty…Quinn is just another quarterback with some stats were he playing for another school. He’s a “Heisman candidate” only due to his uniform. I’m sorry, he racked up a few stats, but 90% of them were against teams that let’s face it, if you’re really that good, you should clean up with one arm tied behind your back. I hate Ohio State, but Smith ripped Texas, rolled the big ten, and then shredded Michigan. Anyone who does that against us has my utmost respect(especially now that we don’t have to face him anymore:-)).

I really think what is happening now is the same people who argue against a playoff because “the argument about who is #1 is what makes college football so popular” are saying that in no way should a rematch occur. I’m on the fence myself, because I remember 1996 and frankly the worst thing that happened was that Florida got another chance(I know OSu or ASU couldn’t have played FSU anyway), and it just seemed so tainted.

I can sort of buy USC, because they at least schedule some Out of Conference teams that are quality. Like Erik Clark said(damn I hate agreeing with a buckeye…:-)), they don’t play anyone out of conference. The Big Ten beats up on each other, plus they play non-conference games they have to actually try to win. Overall I think things point to a rematch. USC lost to an unranked team, Michigan lost to #1 at their place. Both played ND, but UM killed ND at ND, USC killed them at home. The Big Ten was also a much stronger conference than the Pac 10 this season.

Man this has been a trying month and half in terms of principles…first do I want the Tigers to win the world series as a wild card, now do I want Michigan to play Ohio State again…yeesh…

Look at the non-conference schedule for USC
Arkansas in SEC Championship Game
Nebraska in Big 12 Championship Game
Notre Dame Best Independent in country

Now for Michigan.
Vanderbilt
Central Michigan
Ball State

Real good possibility 10 of 12 USC opponents in Bowl Games

I agree Billabong, USC should be in. Michigan had the chance to win and be in. They lost to OSU they should be out. If OSU lost to Michigan, they would not even be considered for the game.

A sequel is never as good as the original.

UM, Michigan played NOtre Dame as well. I didn’t realize the Pac 10 was playing everybody this year. That is a smart move.

I understand the argument about not being fair to OSU to make them beat UM twice. I didn’t realize they played Nebraska as well. I only knew about Arkansas. Props there. I don’t remember the story on Ball State, but I know that was not the original plan. I’m pretty sure Ball State was a replacement for someone who asked out of a contract.

I am watching the Sports Reporters, and holy cow do people grasp at straws. Jimmy roberts made the only valid point, which was the scedule for USC. Everyone else was “anti-rematch”, “they already lost”. Well I thought the whole point was to have the two best teams in the last game. Michigan lost by 3 to the #1 team at their place. Isn’t there a reason why OSU was #1? And isn’t Michigan supposed to lose at their place?

It really shows the weakness of the BCS though. rroof said something about it working itself out, but I don’t agree with that. I can think of 1999, 2002 and 2005 as the only years where there were two clear teams that should be in the game. The rest of the time you had 1 team that was clearly the choice(in 03 you had 3 of them), and 2-4 teams that all had a claim to be in the final game. USC had several points going for it, and a loss to an unranked team. Michigan has several points, yet the biggest anti-Michigan argument is “they have already played OSU”. Well things work out that way sometimes.

I’m not sure how I would feel about Michigan getting a crown under these circumstances, but just for the sake of watching these guys on the Sports Reporters eat crow, I want UCLA to beat USC.