how well these guys can pace themselves and how fast they are without, seemingly, either a PM or HR monitor. What gives?
I rarely watch any track racing, but I had no idea they had rabbits in these races. That really surprised me. Yes, these guys are fast; and it’s a lot of fun to watch them!
Track pacing is-for most distance runners-the result of a lot of time doing interval workouts. After a lot of this work, you can usually run a 200 or a 400 and tell someone how fast you ran within a few 10ths of a second.
I passed through Eugene once and ran on that track just so I could say I did it – and now I did.
I’ve always wanted to see how fast some of the rabbits could go if they didn’t have to pull up. I’ve seen races where they were absolutely flying relative to the field. Would be interesting.
I rarely watch any track racing, but I had no idea they had rabbits in these races. That really surprised me. Yes, these guys are fast; and it’s a lot of fun to watch them!
the commentator says “they want to be at 800 meters at around 2:08” I think the time was 2:08.4. That was the comment that struck me. They know what particular efforts feel like.
Track pacing is-for most distance runners-the result of a lot of time doing interval workouts. After a lot of this work, you can usually run a 200 or a 400 and tell someone how fast you ran within a few 10ths of a second.
Yep. For elite runners, you get to know almost exactly how your pace is, regardless of weather and conditions. Pre was one of the best at this.
John
‘‘how well these guys can pace themselves and how fast they are without, seemingly, either a PM or HR monitor. What gives?’’
You’re funny!
A lot of the bunnies are in a class with the runner’s in the race, but are paid to bunny for that particular race for whatever reason - I’ve known a couple that bunnied for a race that they were planning to skip and just used it as a hard training run.
how well these guys can pace themselves and how fast they are without, seemingly, either a PM or HR monitor. What gives?
I find this comment quite amusing too. I wasn’t even introduced to the world of hr monitors and other such goodies until I started in tri’s. Runners just don’t need that stuff 
how well these guys can pace themselves and how fast they are without, seemingly, either a PM or HR monitor. What gives?
I find this comment quite amusing too. I wasn’t even introduced to the world of hr monitors and other such goodies until I started in tri’s. Runners just don’t need that stuff
Don’t be fooled – Frank’s just looking for more opportunities to diss powermeters so the tri peeps will have more free cash for PCs.
And Frank, you know damn well why runners (and swimmers) don’t need that stuff, and why cyclists can benefit from it (more the PM than the HRM).
Trust me, Frank was around long before anyone heard of PM’s or HR’s.
I don’t want to read anything about that ass clown 
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Trust me, Frank was around long before anyone heard of PM’s or HR’s.
As I remember, there used to be a 10k race in Hono on thanksgiving, no watches allowed, and the winner would be the one who could best predict his time. It was amazing how close most people came.
The more you do this stuff the better you should be at knowing how you are doing without a number in front of your face. Some may do better with it, some may do better without it.
Maybe because pace is just as good an indicator of output on a track… they got their powermeter right there
Its really amazing they can run at all without powercranks, fathom that…
J
Maybe because pace is just as good an indicator of output on a track… they got their powermeter right there
Its really amazing they can run at all without powercranks, fathom that…
J
Hey, people can ride without PowerCranks, some of them even pretty good. Why did you have to bring that up? Now Brandon is going to add another one to my gazillion posts about these things.
“Why did you have to bring that up?”
Because its fun… Ignore me, I don’t mind.
J
Track pacing is-for most distance runners-the result of a lot of time doing interval workouts. After a lot of this work, you can usually run a 200 or a 400 and tell someone how fast you ran within a few 10ths of a second.
True. In addition, however, you have to remember that they can easily take splits every 200 during the race as well. If you’re a rabbit, its your job to hit the splits, so you make damn sure you do it.
Track pacing is-for most distance runners-the result of a lot of time doing interval workouts. After a lot of this work, you can usually run a 200 or a 400 and tell someone how fast you ran within a few 10ths of a second.
True. In addition, however, you have to remember that they can easily take splits every 200 during the race as well. If you’re a rabbit, its your job to hit the splits, so you make damn sure you do it.
Well, I know it is well controlled in that situation and they are getting splits at last every quarter, but the marathoners and ultra guys can do the same thing without frequent splits. Most experienced distance athletes know their pace within a second or two based on effort alone, most days. I suspect the top cyclists could do the same without a powermeter or speedometer if asked to.