I know that this is fringe training stuff but there are articles that suggest benefits from hyperoxic training. Has anyone set one up at home or for a high performance training center?
FYI here are a couple of pictures showing athletes training with the set-up.
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For those that are interested in a brief overview. Here is a link to an article in pezcycling.
http://www.pezcyclingnews.com/page/latest-news/?id=89335#.UjIpfRaAqH8
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16015135
Mixed results. It appears to work, but they aren’t sure why.
Not sure that it’s enough benefit to justify the expense, unless you’re at the pointy end of the stick.
John
You know you are a space nerd when you see this topic but read hypergolic, and then wonder why they aren’t using LOX and RP-1 or LH.
I have read both of those articles. I am not certain what would be expensive about setting it up but it seems like you need an O2 tank, a mask, a reservoir, and that’s about it.
It could be more useful if you live at altitude where your maximum exercise capacity is reduced.
I would just like a “grocery list” of the parts necessary to put it together.
I have read both of those articles. I am not certain what would be expensive about setting it up but it seems like you need an O2 tank, a mask, a reservoir, and that’s about it.
It could be more useful if you live at altitude where your maximum exercise capacity is reduced.
I would just like a “grocery list” of the parts necessary to put it together.
Not sure if you can get a mask with a reservoir as a non medical. I suppose if you work in a hospital/medical environment you could get them with no problem. O2 tanks also, I don’t know if you need a prescription for O2 to be able to get it or not. Also not sure what purpose the box in the middle between the tank and the runner is for, unless that’s the reservoir rather than one hanging off of the mask.
You may be right, it may not be expensive, but I’ve never looked at the costs to refill a straight O2 tank. (Not even sure, but is that something you could get through a scuba shop?)
John
How long before o2 ends up on WADA’s list?
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The O2 tank can be acquired at a welding supply shop. You can either lease or buy the tank. I use one in a oxy-acetylene torch set. The last refill cost me about $30.
I have read both of those articles. I am not certain what would be expensive about setting it up but it seems like you need an O2 tank, a mask, a reservoir, and that’s about it.
It could be more useful if you live at altitude where your maximum exercise capacity is reduced.
I would just like a “grocery list” of the parts necessary to put it together.
Not sure if you can get a mask with a reservoir as a non medical. I suppose if you work in a hospital/medical environment you could get them with no problem. O2 tanks also, I don’t know if you need a prescription for O2 to be able to get it or not. Also not sure what purpose the box in the middle between the tank and the runner is for, unless that’s the reservoir rather than one hanging off of the mask.
You may be right, it may not be expensive, but I’ve never looked at the costs to refill a straight O2 tank. (Not even sure, but is that something you could get through a scuba shop?)
John
one can buy some of this stuff on ebay. i live at altitude and briefly considered this last winter. my local medical supplier would set anyone up with o2 (yours may not; a quick call will help), but they recommended just buying the regulator on ebay.
PS they weren’t even surprised by the request. they said they’ve gotten it before (for athletics).
now that we’re rolling into winter, i’m considering it again.
How long before o2 ends up on WADA’s list?
The use of O2 at the end of stages in Ultraman Canada was banned after someone was found to be using it a few years ago…Same for the use of IV’s
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We do supplemental oxygen work for specific high-intensity workouts with a specific preparation in mind. (Typically priority events at sea-level).
I know of some who “Live Low and Train Lower”.
The winter, off season, is certainly a time when this is not warranted.
One consideration for chronic supplemental / hyper-oxic training is increased free-radical production and systemic inflammation.
Box in the middle is for a humidifier usually.
Biggest challenge is having a knowledgable person running the gear during your workouts. I wouldn’t want to manage that while I’m trying to hammer vo2 intervals.
I think I could get a hold of the parts. It is just that I am not sure what the parts are.
PS they weren’t even surprised by the request. they said they’ve gotten it before (for athletics).
now that we’re rolling into winter, i’m considering it again.
I live in Denver so a high enough altitude that VO2 style intervals are definitely done at lower power than sea-level. Did you come with a list of what is needed? I don’t think that this is as simple as a mask, tubing and oxygen. Part of the problem with that set-up and the speed of respiration at maximum exercise is rebreathing CO2. Even a non-rebreather mask wouldn’t have the capacity with the minute ventilation required.
We do supplemental oxygen work for specific high-intensity workouts with a specific preparation in mind. (Typically priority events at sea-level).
I know of some who “Live Low and Train Lower”.
I have been to the BCSM and worked with Andy Pruitt. The facility is awesome but I can’t justify driving an hour to an hour and a half for an hour training session. There isn’t a place in Denver that offers this. I am in medicine so getting the parts is not an issue. After all nothing is dangerous or a controlled substance. The question is what parts to get. Even a close up photo of the set-up would help.
Box in the middle is for a humidifier usually.
Biggest challenge is having a knowledgable person running the gear during your workouts. I wouldn’t want to manage that while I’m trying to hammer vo2 intervals.
I am not sure what you would need anyone else to do. Seems like you turn on the oxygen, put on the mask and hammer for an hour. I wouldn’t adjust the oxygen delivery during my on and off periods.
Box in the middle is for a humidifier usually.
Biggest challenge is having a knowledgable person running the gear during your workouts. I wouldn’t want to manage that while I’m trying to hammer vo2 intervals.
I am not sure what you would need anyone else to do. Seems like you turn on the oxygen, put on the mask and hammer for an hour. I wouldn’t adjust the oxygen delivery during my on and off periods.
I would do a lot more research before you just ‘put a mask on and hammer for an hour’.
I simplified a bit. Of course I will research and this is the start.
I only meant to illustrate that I am not sure that I would need someone else with me during my sessions to help adjust anything and I am not sure that after I have started the flow of oxygen that I would need to change anything.
If you have experience with this at all I’d be interested in what your experiences have been.
I’ve never directly run the sessions, but have observed them several times. We always had a physiologist running the equipment. Sessions were always intervals at near max effort, sometimes alternating with/without o2. In theory if all the gear is setup properly you shouldn’t have much to adjust during a workout, but it is harder to monitor the gear while you are on a bike/treadmill.