the mega-advantage being of course a free rotating shoulder, eliminating fatigue and allowing for a free unincumbert arm movement.
can anyone point to any disadvantages at all? and water getting inside is not among them - as it doesn’t anyway …
More drag. Less buoyancy. More time to remove.
I wear a sleeveless with QR speedsleeves (which i believe they don’t sell anymore) and love the freedom of shoulder movement . Taking them off during the run up to T1 is not a big deal and requires no extra time.
Thanks for pointing those out. I don’t need them for racing but for practice they seem ideal.
The major disadvantage during a race I see is a little extra time removing and a greater chance of dropping it or losing it during T1.
No extra time to remove it. I think it’s even faster to remove as I can peel the sleeves as soon as I stand up, then have a sleeveless to take off at T1.
One problem I have had (QR sleeves) is chafing just under y armpits from the top of the sleeve rubbing my side.
I really like how much more freedom of movement / less fatigue they allow me (I know, someone’s gonna say a good wetsuit does not restrict. I contend any fabric is at least slightly more constrictive than no fabric).
Just my 2 cents.
can anyone point to any disadvantages at all? //
It is slower, guess that is a disadvantage. But i’m guessing you already knew that.
please explain how it can be slower, as the same neoprene sleeve covers your arm in same exact fashion as the wetsuit’s sleeve does
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Ah, misunderstood your question, though you were asking about sleeveless vs full. Never used the detachable arms, but would guess the would work fine if there were no leaks…
Read the following, it should answer your question:
http://stevefleck.blogspot.com/2010/03/sleeved-or-sleeve-less-for-wetsuits.html
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Read the following, it should answer your question:
http://stevefleck.blogspot.com/...ss-for-wetsuits.html]
no, i’m not asking re: full vs sleeveless (where the reasons are pretty obvious), i’m asking re: full vs sleeveless + separate neoprene sleeves. the three reasons steve gives:
1 water channeling into the suit and soon you are dragging around an extra 5 - 10 pounds of water in the suit.
2 more neck chaffing issues with sleeveless wetsuits.
3 that extra rubber on the sleeves does make you more buoyant and allows you to pull slightly more water per stroke
do not point to any disadvantage - #1 doesn’t exist in a well-fitted sleeveless, #2 imho is the same and depends on a fit and #3 just isn’t there
do not point to any disadvantage - #1 doesn’t exist in a well-fitted sleeveless
I would doubt your sleeveless suit has a perfect seal around the arms and allows absolutely no water in, and even if it does fit perfectly it will still have more drag than a full suit.
In a race could not the sleeves be deemed illegal equipment as they are separate from the wetsuit?
the mega-advantage being of course a free rotating shoulder, eliminating fatigue and allowing for a free unincumbert arm movement.
can anyone point to any disadvantages at all? and water getting inside is not among them - as it doesn’t anyway …
you write that a full wetsuit causes fatigue and limits arm movement as if its a fact.
I used both the cat5 tyr wetsuits… I didn’t like the full sleeves because my arms felt more tired. I swapped it for the sleeveless and felt much more comfortable and just as fast.
same here! owned and swam in B70 reaction, aquaman’s metalcell, aquasphere icon - now my shoulders and arms found nirvana in a sleeveless vortex.
and whatever seconds are presumably lost in the water are re-gained in T1