How did you get your shallow tri bike steeper?

i’m interested in knowing what sort of ingenious tricks you guys have developed for getting your shallow tri or TT bike steeper. in particular, it’s the bikes with non-interchangeable seatposts i’m talking about.

so, PLEASE, don’t saturate this thread with turnaround round seat posts, and such. yes, i know about moving the saddle forward on the rails. and yes, i’m also aware of the fact that making a shallower bike steeper may resort in handling issues, and i’m also aware that many riders may choose to ride them shallower. so, please, no theses on all that sort of stuff.

i’m aware that orbea makes a steeper seat post, changing their 74° bike to 76°. likewise kuota. i’m aware that ABG makes the shuttle.

i’ve learned of a trick to make the scott plasma steeper than its putative set up allows. i’m looking for that sort of thing. how have you make your kuota, orbea, time, look, pinarello, etc., ride at 79° or 80° through some ingenioius maneuver? please private email me with your solutions and your photos if any. thanks in advance.

I know a rider who has filed their Kuota saddle clamp holder so they can move their saddle even further forward when using a Fizik Arionne. You can gain nearly 5mm if you’re willing to risk it… I wouldn’t.

Unfortunately I don’t have any measurements, but I race on on old Trek Y-foil. I replaced the stock fork with a shorter, aero fork. Also use a corima aero seat post turned backwards. Other homebrew mods are a Syntace Blackbird one piece aerobar that has been seriously chopped up and modified (pads bolted directly to the base bar and all cables routed internally, shimano barend levers fastened directly into the bars without the heavy internal clamp thingy). I dont have any handling problems that I know of (meaning I’ve never crashed, but have raced some challenging bike courses.

Styrrell

Slowman, I have the opposite problem. I have a 77 degree Lucero and I nose ride, so I am effectively riding >82. I’d like my seat at 76 so I end up nose riding at 80 or so. I need to get this shuttle for my Lucero so that I can slide my seat back a bit. Is the only place to get it from ABG?

Dev,

the only place i found that carries the shuttle is trisports.

have fun,
p

i’ve learned of a trick to make the scott plasma steeper than its putative set up allows. i’m looking for that sort of thing.
OK, spill it…

“OK, spill it…”

i’ll have it as an addendum to the scott plasma writeup. there’s be a prompt on the slowtwitch.com main page within a day.

Thank you.

Let me know if you find a way to get the new specialized transition to move the nose in front of the BB. :slight_smile:

Isn’t there a rail extender attachment that somebody_ makes?

Let me know if you find a way to get the new specialized transition to move the nose in front of the BB.


from the pics it looks like it should be easy with the straight post instead of the setback one, and the clamp in the forward position.
http://www.triathletemag.com/Assets/SpecTT7.jpg

I’ll dig around and see if I still have it to take a pic, but I used an aluminum adaptor that attached to the seatpost clamp and had a seat clamp mount about an inch further forward. It was made out of a block of aluminum, very simple. Got it many years ago from Suburban Machinery who also used to make a sweet titanium forward seatpost and a titanium tri frame. They’re still in business, making motorcycle parts and accessories, and I wrote them asking if they still made these.

Ooooo Ooooo now I’m curious. But I like to ride REEEEEALLY steep. Nose drop right now is in front of the BB and I ride on the nose. Any chance that I could take the set back post and flip it around? Is the seatpost entry slot symetrical front to back?

Estimation based on where I do most of my riding I am somewhere in the area of 85+ degree angle.

I pulled the pic from the triathletemag.com article. there’s another pic of a built up bike between two framesets. if you look closely, the bike is built with the straight post, the clamp in the rear position, and the seat about the middle of the rails. the nose of the saddle looks to be almost even with the bb. i’d guess there’s potential to get the saddle 2-3" further forward by flipping the clamp and pushing the seat forward.

Sweeeeet. Thanks for the help.

5430 for you yesterday?

Man, Dan, this is why I love my Yaqui from Ves with your DE frame. 81 degrees, and the bike was make for that angle.
No games, and no handling issues.

I assume companies do not make adapters like you are asking about since it seems it could open them up to lawsuits if
someone were to crash.

Dave

C’mon Dave, you must be slipping…

No mention of dimpled wheels, tires, PC’s, 200 cm cranks, or a carboat in this post?

Those are all just as relevant to the OP.

<< Man, Dan, this is why I love my Yaqui from Ves with your DE frame. 81 degrees, and the bike was make for that angle.
No games, and no handling issues. >>

Yeah, and those round tubes have all the aero qualities of a barn door.
But you’re happy, and that’s all that matters.

Sorry to hijack the hijack Dan. Back to your original thread, already in progress…

PS - IF you can find a way to get an '05 Felt B2 saddle more forward, I’m all ears.
(I’ve got an Arione Tri jammed as far forward as it can possibly go)
I’d love to try going a little lower, but without being able to move the saddle forward, it’s a no-go.

PS - IF you can find a way to get an '05 Felt B2 saddle more forward, I’m all ears.
(I’ve got an Arione Tri jammed as far forward as it can possibly go)
I’d love to try going a little lower, but without being able to move the saddle forward, it’s a no-go
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I thought SuperDave mentioned folks who disliked the aesthetics of the dual-position post on the new DA & B2 and wanted a simple no-offset version (MJ for one???) were retro-fitting your current seatpost to their bikes? If so, it would work in reverse surely, then you could have your forward position post…

I could be mistaken though…

Ooooo Ooooo now I’m curious. But I like to ride REEEEEALLY steep. Nose drop right now is in front of the BB and I ride on the nose. Any chance that I could take the set back post and flip it around? Is the seatpost entry slot symetrical front to back?

Estimation based on where I do most of my riding I am somewhere in the area of 85+ degree angle.

Specialized quote -100 to +50 saddle position. As it looks like you have your saddle around 85cm this would give an effective angle on the Tranny C of ~85deg (at a point 12cm back on the saddle). You should be ok.

Hopefully the seatpost is not symmetrical from front to rear.

Yeah… I’d seen that quote before too. Was not entirely sure as to how to interpret it. Is that from a theoretical midline coming up from the BB that is the mean position between the most forward forward and rear rear position (rear being the one the UCI guys are getting).

I used a digital scale and a broomstick placed at about where I sit to get the 85.0 guesstamate.

Any more info you might have would be very welcomed.

yeah, 5430 was fun, but not my finest moment. first sprint race in 5 years with too much ironman training. just didn’t have any spring in my legs. couldn’t move any faster but coulda kept going for another hour or two. that plus my first time in the pool since november was last week. gotta do a few stroke ‘n’ strides to get things moving. i’m staying with shorter races this year…even running some 5 and 10ks to try and find my speed. i used to have it and i’m sure that, even at 56, i can get some of it back. i gotta say that it was really fun to race hard and not spend the whole day at it.