I rarely have issues with IT Band syndrome, but have had problems in long races IM/HIMs which don’t normally happen on runs outside of a triathlon race. I just watched this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0u6xJ2XGNDo and was wondering if any running guru’s had any thoughts on this. Keep in mind I do not have any issues with doing multiple single leg squats. Just curious what people think of his comment regarding hoka’s exacerbating lateral movement of the knee due to compression of the sole. I think it’s an interesting discussion but don’t know enough about anatomy.
I ran in the Stinson Tarmac for 5 months. Loved the shoe. Developed a bad case of patella tendonitis. Took me close to a year to recover. Had never had this type of injury before. The only variable that changed in my running was the Hoka. Have not had the injury re-occur since I quit running in the Stinson. Unfortunate because the shoe felt great.
I ran in the Stinson Tarmac for 5 months. Loved the shoe. Developed a bad case of patella tendonitis. Took me close to a year to recover. Had never had this type of injury before. The only variable that changed in my running was the Hoka. Have not had the injury re-occur since I quit running in the Stinson. Unfortunate because the shoe felt great.
Thanks for the reply, which shoe did you switch too? Resistance is futile!
X2 on patellar tendinitis in Hoka (Bondi). Can’t say for sure it was the shoes, but I made a change after the injury and so far, so good.
This thread led me to suspect the Hoka as a variable:
I went back to running in the Brooks Adrenaline. No knee issues since switching back to the Adrenalines.
Hey,
I had an ITB issue.
Went to a biomechanics guy. He filmed me running in my Hoka’s and brooks ghosts. My knee rolled in quiet a bit on the Hoka Bondi’s even more than my neutral ghosts. He put me in Asics 2000’s for my long runs and DS trainers for racing and shorter stuff. ITB much better now as I needed some pronation control but not enough for orthotics.
He was very anti the Hoka’s and Newtons. Also you may want to check your bike fit I needed to have a 4mm lift inserted on my right side and a varis wedge inserted on my left cleat to stop me rolling on the bike. My left ITB issue is much better now.
Hey,
I had an ITB issue.
Went to a biomechanics guy. He filmed me running in my Hoka’s and brooks ghosts. My knee rolled in quiet a bit on the Hoka Bondi’s even more than my neutral ghosts. He put me in Asics 2000’s for my long runs and DS trainers for racing and shorter stuff. ITB much better now as I needed some pronation control but not enough for orthotics.
He was very anti the Hoka’s and Newtons. Also you may want to check your bike fit I needed to have a 4mm lift inserted on my right side and a varis wedge inserted on my left cleat to stop me rolling on the bike. My left ITB issue is much better now.
Do you mind sharing the biomechanic’s and bike fitter’s contact information?
I don’t use Hoka’s and don’t have knee issues… So it must be the Hoka’s… 
I don’t use Hoka’s and don’t have knee issues… So it must be the Hoka’s…
What shoes are you using?
I’m contemplating a switch to something a little firmer: Brooks Ghost, Saucony Ride, or NB890…I can’t think of anymore but I don’t think I can go wrong with either of these.
]Went to a biomechanics guy. … I would love to get this contact info as well. I’ve got a very sore ITB at the moment and am struggling to get it to calm down.
- “X2 on patellar tendinitis in Hoka (Bondi). Can’t say for sure it was the shoes, but I made a change after the injury and so far, so good.”*
Damn it! After my 18 miler yesterday in my Bondi 3’s, my right patellar tendon started hurting, and still hurts this morning. I am going to pretend I did not read this thread!
“X2 on patellar tendinitis in Hoka (Bondi). Can’t say for sure it was the shoes, but I made a change after the injury and so far, so good.”
Damn it! After my 18 miler yesterday in my Bondi 3’s, my right patellar tendon started hurting, and still hurts this morning. I am going to pretend I did not read this thread!
I know, I love my Bondis…I honestly don’t know if I can give them up. I’m really curious what people run in besides there Hoka’s - i.e. Ghost, Energy, Ride etc.?
No shoe is perfect for everyone and it sounds like Hokas weren’t for you. My experience has been the opposite, I struggled with injury issues for 6 months, ITB syndrome, bursitis, and a strained muscle, which really put a dent in my run training for my first Ironman, spent a lot of weeks only doing 15-20 mpw which was pretty disappointing. Did a lot of PT, stretching and strength stuff and things began to improve but the injury stuff didn’t really get under control until I switched from Brooks Adrenaline to Hoka Conquests. Now worked up to 35 mpw and injuries are almost completely gone, still less than I would be doing if not for the setbacks but I’ll take it.
“X2 on patellar tendinitis in Hoka (Bondi). Can’t say for sure it was the shoes, but I made a change after the injury and so far, so good.”
Damn it! After my 18 miler yesterday in my Bondi 3’s, my right patellar tendon started hurting, and still hurts this morning. I am going to pretend I did not read this thread!
I know, I love my Bondis…I honestly don’t know if I can give them up. I’m really curious what people run in besides there Hoka’s - i.e. Ghost, Energy, Ride etc.?
I had gone to the Bondi’s exclusively over the last month or so. My knees just didn’t hurt at all with them, and that was my #1 objective (I am 41 yrs old, FWIW). I was mixing in some runs with Brooks Ravenna 4’s, so I think I will mix those back in. I probably should have been doing that anyways, but like you, I love my Bondis.
“X2 on patellar tendinitis in Hoka (Bondi). Can’t say for sure it was the shoes, but I made a change after the injury and so far, so good.”
Damn it! After my 18 miler yesterday in my Bondi 3’s, my right patellar tendon started hurting, and still hurts this morning. I am going to pretend I did not read this thread!
I know, I love my Bondis…I honestly don’t know if I can give them up. I’m really curious what people run in besides there Hoka’s - i.e. Ghost, Energy, Ride etc.?
I had gone to the Bondi’s exclusively over the last month or so. My knees just didn’t hurt at all with them, and that was my #1 objective (I am 41 yrs old, FWIW). I was mixing in some runs with Brooks Ravenna 4’s, so I think I will mix those back in. I probably should have been doing that anyways, but like you, I love my Bondis.
Thanks Jb, is the Ravenna Neutral? I’ve never heard of it. Cheers.
“X2 on patellar tendinitis in Hoka (Bondi). Can’t say for sure it was the shoes, but I made a change after the injury and so far, so good.”
Damn it! After my 18 miler yesterday in my Bondi 3’s, my right patellar tendon started hurting, and still hurts this morning. I am going to pretend I did not read this thread!
I know, I love my Bondis…I honestly don’t know if I can give them up. I’m really curious what people run in besides there Hoka’s - i.e. Ghost, Energy, Ride etc.?
I had gone to the Bondi’s exclusively over the last month or so. My knees just didn’t hurt at all with them, and that was my #1 objective (I am 41 yrs old, FWIW). I was mixing in some runs with Brooks Ravenna 4’s, so I think I will mix those back in. I probably should have been doing that anyways, but like you, I love my Bondis.
Thanks Jb, is the Ravenna Neutral? I’ve never heard of it. Cheers.
Brooks calls it “between neutral and support”
- “X2 on patellar tendinitis in Hoka (Bondi). Can’t say for sure it was the shoes, but I made a change after the injury and so far, so good.”*
Damn it! After my 18 miler yesterday in my Bondi 3’s, my right patellar tendon started hurting, and still hurts this morning. I am going to pretend I did not read this thread!
Right there with you… got the Conquests and get tight in the patellar tendon as well. Kinda thought, “oh, these must be making me use muscles that I wasn’t before” but I’m doubting that now. So far the pain is gone shortly after running but I’m right there with you, damn it!
It’s not the F ing shoes people it is you. Fix yourself stop blaming things out of your control like the shoe or side slope grade of the road, running surface. You are running incorrect and just cause you can do a single leg squat doesn’t mean you are doing it correctly. Same goes for all movent and exercises.
Not to mention alot of triathlete are ridding way to aggressive on there bike setups and that can cause more problems that are only felt on running impacts that require alot more force then biking.
Just stop labeling shoes as a reason!
Please don’t responses I am busy!
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x3. I’d been thinking of posting my experience. Got patella pain running in my new Hokas. Switched back to Acics and it went away. I thought it couldn’t be the shoes and tried the Hokas again a few weeks later and the knee pain came back in less than a mile of running. Gave the shoes to Goodwill
It’s not the F ing shoes people it is you. Fix yourself stop blaming things out of your control like the shoe or side slope grade of the road, running surface. You are running incorrect and just cause you can do a single leg squat doesn’t mean you are doing it correctly. Same goes for all movent and exercises.
Not to mention alot of triathlete are ridding way to aggressive on there bike setups and that can cause more problems that are only felt on running impacts that require alot more force then biking.
Just stop labeling shoes as a reason!
Please don’t responses I am busy!
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Technique will always last longer then energy production. Improve biomechanics, improve performance.
Anthony
Cranky today, only a couple of weeks before tapering for IMC 