So I switched from running with Kinvaras for like 4-5 years, switched to Hoka Clifton’s and I really like the first version a lot, I actually like the tongue (I know that others didn’t) I also liked the size of the toe box both my Kinvaras and Hoka had similar size toe boxes.
I bought the same size Hoka Clifton 2’s and I’ve been running with them for a few months and my right toes look like an animal attacked them. Black toe nails, swollen toes, skin falling off, blisters on my toes, the fox box is def smaller. My running distance hasn’t changed at all…right toes hurt when I run never had that happen
Might have to go back to Kinvaras, feel like I might have wasted $125, oh well.
I’ve read that Cliftons vary from one pair to the next. I can’t believe how narrow mine are, but then others say that one pair was fine and the next narrow. Not sure if applies to v1 vs. v2.
My first pair of Cliftons was perfect for me. Second gave me black toes. Have not tried Clifton 2 yet.
I wasn’t the only one. Pretty sure the Chinese factory changed something without telling Hoka. If you are going to outsource to China you gotta watch them like a hawk or they WILL try to cut corners.
My first pair of Cliftons was perfect for me. Second gave me black toes. Have not tried Clifton 2 yet.
I wasn’t the only one. Pretty sure the Chinese factory changed something without telling Hoka. If you are going to outsource to China you gotta watch them like a hawk or they WILL try to cut corners.
I hear ya on China^. Surprised the quality control on Hoka is so low, simple solution to this problem. Gonna go back to my Kinvaras, feels like I dropped a sledge hammer on my right foot haha
So I switched from running with Kinvaras for like 4-5 years, switched to Hoka Clifton’s and I really like the first version a lot, I actually like the tongue (I know that others didn’t) I also liked the size of the toe box both my Kinvaras and Hoka had similar size toe boxes.
I bought the same size Hoka Clifton 2’s and I’ve been running with them for a few months and my right toes look like an animal attacked them. Black toe nails, swollen toes, skin falling off, blisters on my toes, the fox box is def smaller. My running distance hasn’t changed at all…right toes hurt when I run never had that happen
Might have to go back to Kinvaras, feel like I might have wasted $125, oh well.
welcome back from mars…this has been discussed ad nauseam in here.
I have the huaka and they fit perfect but considering Cliftons because I love light. From what I’m reading I’m thinking of getting the originals since they’re lighter and I can get cheaper - if only improvement is the tongue, I don’t have issues with tongue on Huaka.
It feels about the same to me. But I also had both insoles in my Clifton 1’s. IT feels a little more firm overall and is a little heavier. I’m not sure it was an improvement. The mass production cost cutting is obvious too. I still like the shoe.
Toe-box width: my pinky toe toenails are taking something of a bruising from my Clifton 2s that they didn’t receive from the Clifton 1s, so yes, something seems different/narrower. C2 tongue is an improvement, and the shoe looks great and rides similarly. Also, the insoles don’t seem prone to sliding around like the C1’s.
After around 80 miles of normal running (and probably 30% of that on soft surface), however, the outsole already showed signs of minor disintegration (as reported with other models). For a $130 shoe, that’s annoying.
I’ve read that Cliftons vary from one pair to the next. I can’t believe how narrow mine are, but then others say that one pair was fine and the next narrow. Not sure if applies to v1 vs. v2.
This definitely applies on the 3 v1’s i have. All are noticeably different and it’s not just due to wear. I don’t like the added weight on the 2’s so i’ve bought another pair of v1’s online, hopefully i’ll get one with the toe box i like!
why did you switch from the Kinvara’s in the first place? just curious. I recently switched from Clifton’s to Asics 33FA on 10k and shorter races. Really like them the fit for me is perfect and not quite as much squish.
I’m currently running in the heavier Hoka Conquest1 because I didn’t like the feel of the Bondi3 and the Clifton1 was too tight up front when I tried them on. Next I’m going to one of the zero drop shoes, either Altra (Torin 27mm, Instinct 24mm, One 23mm) or maybe even the Skora Temp (22mm) because of the wide toe box. Been fighting a neuroma and doc said to dump the Hoka as its too narrow for me, I now need a wide toe box even though my whole life I’ve been running in medium width shoes without issue until recently.
why did you switch from the Kinvara’s in the first place? just curious. I recently switched from Clifton’s to Asics 33FA on 10k and shorter races. Really like them the fit for me is perfect and not quite as much squish.
I trained last year for a marathon and did a bunch of running after I ran my marathon my knee felt off so I thought I would go with a more cushioned shoe so I switched to The orginal Clifton, had no sides until I beat the piss out of the orginal Clifton after putting a bunch of miles on them and my wife made me buy a new pair of Clifton 2’s because the insoles in the orginal Clifton’s got all bunched up and shit fast
I’ve read that Cliftons vary from one pair to the next. I can’t believe how narrow mine are, but then others say that one pair was fine and the next narrow. Not sure if applies to v1 vs. v2.
My second pair of Cliftons were tighter than the first and even the first were tight initially. I’ve finally given up with trying to stretch the second pair and am going back to Newtons with the new Aha model.
I tried a pair of Clifton 2, they were narrow and I found them long. Went a 1/2 size up for width and they would have doubled as water skiis.
Ended up in an older Clifton, right sized, better width and I can go barefoot in them.
The tongue is a bit wimpy and I have trouble getting them on, so a fast T2 might be a problem.
Haven’t lost any toenails yet!