Chris Horner (Team Astana) is apparently not into all the new sports nutrition bars and drinks. The dude goes thru tons of Coke and Snickers bars on a daily basis during training and racing. They had a few videos of him during the Gila race and in the team bus and they had a case of big snickers bars just for him and during the race everyone got water bottles and he got 2 cans of regular ol’ Coke. Funny that with all the fancy drink nutrition that good ol’ High Fructose Corn Syrup is still a product that works great and many pros still rely on it. Many cycling pros in Europe still drink Coke during races although Coke over there still has sugar.
Chris Horner (Team Astana) is apparently not into all the new sports nutrition bars and drinks.
This is the thing that the sports drink and nutrition companies never tell you. They assume the no one understands even the most rudimentry basics of sports nutrition/physiology. It all gets converted/broken down into glucose/glycogen. You could probably do a whole IM on water with appropriate amounts of table sugar mixed into it!
And yes - good old Coke is a miracle worker late in any endurance race like a half or full IM!
I was in the grocery store last night and saw “Throwback Pepsi”. It’s made with sugar. Not giving up coke for it, though!
Coke has a new one too called Coke Natural in 4 pack vintage bottles.
I’ve always thought that if they repackaged Snickers, put a couple of milligrams of vitamin C and B complex, and called it “SuperBar” they could double the price and it would out sell all others. It would have the right “balance” of protein, carbs & fat.
…It all gets converted/broken down into glucose/glycogen.
Steve,
On that note, then I assume since this is also a wetsuit w/ sleeves & legs & a hole to put your head through, it’s the same exact thing, will serve the same purpose & be interchangeable with a Nineteen Frequency? I mean they’re both wetsuits - right?? ;o)
On that note, then I assume since this is also a wetsuit w/ sleeves & legs & a hole to put your head through, it’s the same exact thing, will serve the same purpose & be interchangeable with a Nineteen Frequency? I mean they’re both wetsuits - right?? ;o)
Touche, Brian, touche!
You know I was poking fun at the whole thing . . . but there is some truth to what I said. It’s not all hogwash!
I’ve always thought that if they repackaged Snickers, put a couple of milligrams of vitamin C and B complex, and called it “SuperBar” they could double the price and it would out sell all others. It would have the right “balance” of protein, carbs & fat.
You mean like this?
My understanding of the controversy over HFCS is that its detrimental effect is on sedentary people, not on those who burn as many calories as they consume. The problem for these people is primarily two fold:
HFCS has more fructose than table sugar, and is more readily converted to triglycerides and ultimately fat, as the liver does not metabolize it as readily as glucose.
HFCS does not stimulate grellin (sp?) production in the stomach (as does glucose), which works as a shut-off switch in the brain for carbohydrate consumption. This results in the destabilization of blood glucose levels (from overconsumption), and the spike and crash of insulin, which results in more cravings for sugar, which results in more consumption, etc.
The incidence of Type II diabetes correlates strongly with the replacement of sucrose with HFCS in the american diet, for the two reasons above. Athletes probably have little to fear from HFCS, but the effects on the body public are hard to ignore.
I understand that HFCS can cause stomach inflammation and cramping and try to stay away from it.
I’ve had great success with Infinit Nutrition and Gatorade Endurance–neither of which uses HFCS. Infinit’s website gives a pretty good review of the pros and cons of various triathlon grade sports drinks.
Chris Horner must have a trash bag for a stomach if he can pound Snickers bars during a race.
how do you not know that he isn’t drinking either mexican or kosher coke?
Both use cane sugar instead of HFCS.
When you start to look for HFCS, you see how prevelant it is in our food… mountain high yougurt… plain is great with ~4 ingreadients… but get the vanilla and all of the sudden the 2nd or 3rd ingredient is HFCS. In yogurt.
Then you add it up across all the foods you eat over a day…scary really.
I understand that HFCS can cause stomach inflammation and cramping and try to stay away from it.
I’ve had great success with Infinit Nutrition and Gatorade Endurance–neither of which uses HFCS. Infinit’s website gives a pretty good review of the pros and cons of various triathlon grade sports drinks.
Chris Horner must have a trash bag for a stomach if he can pound Snickers bars during a race.
Actually the Gatorade Endurance in the bottles, on the courses, at the bike aid stations, have HFCS. Most premixed sugar drinks in a bottle with the exception of the new vitamin waters and sobe’s use HFCS.
“Let’s review: HFCS isn’t healthy, but there’s no reason to believe it’s
any worse for you than cane or beet sugar; HFCS is just as “natural” as
any other sweetener, at least according to the U.S. government; and
while HFCS seems to have a slightly different taste from pure sucrose,
many people prefer it. So why are we abandoning high-fructose corn
syrup? It doesn’t matter how weak each claim is on its own terms;
together, they seem irrefutable. You can win over hypochondriacs with
one argument, environmentalists with another, and gourmands with a
third. That’s the beauty of the three-pronged critique: It’s
customizable. The foodies haven’t just killed HFCS—they’ve stuck a fork
in it.”
My understanding of the controversy over HFCS is that its detrimental effect is on sedentary people, not on those who burn as many calories as they consume. The problem for these people is primarily two fold:
HFCS has more fructose than table sugar, and is more readily converted to triglycerides and ultimately fat, as the liver does not metabolize it as readily as glucose.
HFCS does not stimulate grellin (sp?) production in the stomach (as does glucose), which works as a shut-off switch in the brain for carbohydrate consumption. This results in the destabilization of blood glucose levels (from overconsumption), and the spike and crash of insulin, which results in more cravings for sugar, which results in more consumption, etc.
The incidence of Type II diabetes correlates strongly with the replacement of sucrose with HFCS in the american diet, for the two reasons above. Athletes probably have little to fear from HFCS, but the effects on the body public are hard to ignore.
This is the most accurate statement about HFCS that I have come across here. Nice job. You have your info staright.
Nevertheless, I train 15-19hrs/week and never, never put anything into my body that has HFCS or any other artifficial sweetner. That is just me. In US, you have to go out of your way to avoid it. Only organic or all natural labeled foods don’t have it. When I cleansed my children of that stuff, there was a noticable change in behavior. No more insulin spikes and Johny is being crancky, to bounce of the walls the next 5min to scream bloody murder when the glucose hits the “valley”…Peace in the house, organic Cliff Zbars do magic.
Is anyone aware of any sports nutrition studies of the physiological affects of HFCS on caloric uptake compared to other sugars (ones not sponsored by Gatorade)?
Some studies suggest you can increase your caloric uptake to > 1.0g/min by mixing the ratio of glucose, fructose, maltodextrin, etc. and I’m wondering if there’s any caloric uptake effects of HFCS? Could it be less than 1.0g given it’s unnatural state? Could it be greater and actually be beneficial for performance over a relatively short term like a half or full iron?
I’m with you guys, I stay away from the stuff, but then you either have to ensure you bring your nutrition to your race or have to consume something different on race day – which we know is generally a bad idea.
