Help Needed: Deck Gate Install Edition

Installed one gate easily by myself last year because the posts were flush with the gate hinge. The other gate is stumping me. Instead of the 4x4 posts being flush they are turned on the 90. See pics below. It’s the exact same gate and hinge setup.

My creative thought was to cut blocks of wood with a 90deg notch and drill those into the 4x4 post and have the hinges attach to that. But there’s gotta be a better way.

First pic is the flush gate already installed. Second two are the problematic one.



You might be able to use a roller cage hinge with flat mount.

I didn’t think I was drinking tonight. Then I clicked the link and saw it’s $182 for two hinges! The gate didn’t cost that much.

But thanks for the rec…I’ll see if there’s anything comparable.

Nah, you just got tariffed.

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Was wondering what the problem was with a 4x4 turned 90deg until I saw your photo…that ain’t 90, brother.

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Ok they’re turned 45 degrees from flush but the angle between them forms a 90. My mistake, brother.

Anything to add as far as a solution?

The pics make it clear what the problem is.

Can you attach the gate to the top spindle or railing instead? since those are perpendicular / flush for attaching a hinge?

Not sure of the esthetics, but if the gate is to keep a small child or pet from tumbling downstairs, then it’s functional.

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@40-Tude I don’t see any area that allows me to do that. I need a surface that is parallel/flush to this red line.

Unless I’m misunderstanding what you’re suggesting?

And yes this is for both little kids and our dog.

Juat find something there that will work

Put a 4x4 where you are missing a picket on the railing at the first stair. Run a gate from that 4x4 to the 4x4 on the other side of the first stair.
Might need to alter the trim fascia piece on the railing.

Easiest solution would be to rip a 2x4 in half with 45 degree bevel. Attach each end to the 4x4’s with the bevel against the post, then build your gate off that.

Like so:

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Why is it not symmetrical? That would bother me that the posts are not the same distance from the edge.

The missing picket on the left would be my first repair with small kids in play, but that’s just me. :blush:

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I was thinking, put the gate where I drew a yellow line - so over the top step. Bottom of the gate can still be flush with the deck floor. The rail spindles are flat there to attach hinges normally.

The Trex was a Covid facelift on the original structure which was built in 1990. And the existing railings were all symmetrical but didn’t include a 4x4 as you see here. This was the easiest solution at the time without going into redoing the stairs which was just not in the budget.

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Seems like then the gate would have to open down into the stairs which is a pain in the ass. I’m trying to keep it swinging into the landing area away from the steps.

It looks like the gate will create a bit of a pinch point as it will open against the railing on the left. You might not be able to open it to 90 degrees. Just something to consider, but your options are few without getting in to more work than you’re probably looking to do at this point.

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Way ahead of you :sunglasses:

I just need to touch up all the paint. Fuck me this house is a pain in my ass!

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Brother I hear you. I’m at home Depot right now. My tenant called me last night at 10pm because there’s standing water in one corner of a room in the basement.

We’ve got a big rain storm coming in. I’ll be working out in the pissing rain all day at least temporarily diverting water from the perimeter drains.

The gate style opens up all the way. This is the other one open fully. And then a picture showing the larger space of the new installation area. My though was hinges on the left 4x4 post so it opens up cleanly with the 4ft railing section.