I’m a long time TT rider with a relatively low, flat position, and neck that can extend like a turtle. I got a Giro Selector late last summer. Despite trying virtually everything the helmet offers for adjustment, I still find myself having to lift my head to see up the road, especially on a bumpy course.
Currently I am experimenting with reducing slack in the strap behind the ear (pulled strap through anchor and installed new anchor that shortens the strap, pulling down in back). This sort of works, but I think compromises crash worthiness of the helmet. It also chokes me and totally crushes my ear.
Of the new crop of helmets I;ve tried, Rudy Wingspan and LG Vorttice dont fit anywhere near as well - big gap to the back. My old Giro Advantage fit well to my back, but my ears stuck out like big parachutes.
I dont want to move to a different helmet of at all possible since I’ve got big bucks sunk in this one, and it has a few scrapes now, so I’ll lose my shirt on it used. Anybody have suggestions?
Which extender are you using? Picture would help. But if have a low position with flat back you should probably use the smaller extender. This will help keep the helmet such that you are looking through the bottom of the visor.
I have a Rocket and recently purchased a Selector. I want to love the Selector but it is hard to see this happening. I will keep trying to make it work but I have my doubts for me personally. My issues:
Way hotter than the Rocket
Very, very uncomfortable in addition to the heat. It is so damm tight on my head
Very unscientific testing it appears to be slower… This is with visor (Selector) to Rocket without visor
But I do have money invested into it. It does look incredibly cool. When watching pro TT on TV it is the helmet that seems to be the most common with a huge lead.
But I do have money invested into it. It does look incredibly cool. When watching pro TT on TV it is the helmet that seems to be the most common with a huge lead.
Don’t read too much into that…it is about sponsorship $$$, not personal choice by the pros.
Sorry I forgot to mention that I am using the shorter aero fairing on the bottom - so the helmet tail isnt pushing the thing over my eyes. This so dramatic and so hard to solve I was very surprised not to see many posts about the vision block issue when I queried the forum this morning. Can you see out of yours?
Personally, I have not had any vision issues with my Selector. I also have a low, flat back position. IN fact, my vision is much better with my Selector than with my Oakleys since I don’t have to deal with the frame glass.
My comments have to do with riding the helmet in the aero position, not standing around. My working theory is that lawyers got hold of the design process, resulting in the helmet fitting down lower on the forehead for impact protection. It rides an inch and a half lower on my forehead than my Giro Advantage does when set up to roll the tail of the helmet to touch my back.
Seeing out of mine is not a problem. I have rolled it back on my head. This is when sweat is not pouring into my eyes. I have not given up on the helmet and will continue to see if I can make it work. But I don’t have much faith at this point.
From the mostly appreciated replies I think a few of you guys arent taking me seriously, or dont know what I am talking about. I’d really appreciate some informed and insightful input from forum members…I know you are out there!
To give you an idea about the game level, here is my 50 mile, very hilly and windy TT time at Wisconsin 2010 Firehouse 50 ITT using the old Giro Advantage helmet:
M50-54John ShishillaMedina, MN1:50:17.002010
Any valid input regarding helmet aero in a low flat position would be appreciated. I am looking for seconds.
Sorry the pasted in URL times didnt work. My 50 mile time was 1:50:17. I dont do many of those.Average 40K time on a flat course is between :53 and :54
From the mostly appreciated replies I think a few of you guys arent taking me seriously, or dont know what I am talking about. I’d really appreciate some informed and insightful input from forum members…I know you are out there!
To give you an idea about the game level, here is my 50 mile, very hilly and windy TT time at Wisconsin 2010 Firehouse 50 ITT using the old Giro Advantage helmet:
M50-54John ShishillaMedina, MN1:50:17.002010
Any valid input regarding helmet aero in a low flat position would be appreciated. I am looking for seconds.
I have the same problem. My McGiver solution was to take some soft Velcro and add it to the front of the helmet forehead area. That way when I rotate it back so that I’m looking through the bottom of the visor when standing up (as Carl Spacklersuggested) it doesn’t fall back down over my eyes…at least not as quickly anyway.
Thanks to all for feedback. The solution I found was to take slack out of the behind the ear strap ( cannot do this like other helmets since front and rear anchors are sewn together on the Selector). the way I did it was to use a drapery hook to skewer through the rear strap at a point that draws the helmet back, the cut it off with a bolt cutter so that it is same dimension as the existing anchor. Then I slipped the new anchor into the place where the old one was. This drew the tail down, but does compromise the stability of the helmet in event of crash. It can more easily slide up on your forehead. On the other hand, you can actually see out of the thing, which to me seemed a reasonable compromise.
What I don’t understand is why this is an issue at all. I mean, we saw pro riders using the selector about 2 years before it came out…surely one of the reasons they did that was to sort out teething problems with the design. Or were the pro versions different then? I notice just as the selector becomes available the garmin team have now moved on to something else. And so it goes on…
that only has about 5 years to stand since I had it on my list to remove NIles’ record out there this year
see my profile pic 6, tell me, can i see?
btw… too help with your issue, buddy used a spider lock elite, glued it and used its velcro to help snug up the back. i was going to do the same, until, well, there would be no point for me now to do that
I have the same problem with the front dropping over bumps. Shortened the back strap by stitching it like you but this means it has to be so tight you can’t breath, moved the back clip to the furthest back which helped a bit, next Idea is thick neoprene padding inside helmet on Velcro. Bloody annoying for such an expensive helmet, also have to wear skull cap to stop it folding my ears over as if you try to adjust with your fingers the side pops off.
One tip I have been given is regarding misting up. If you file out the foam behind the vent channels on the lenses they mist up a lot less.
Let me know if you have any success.
I finally solved this problem for good. I bought a Bell Javelin, taped in the tail, and am now good to go. The helmet fits superbly, visibility great with the visor on, and the tail rides right on my back. I love it.
since I had it on my list to remove NIles’ record out there this year 