I have been using this all season so far and have found it okay(thought not amazing).
What are your thoughts? Anything else you recommend trying?
I have tried many different sports drinks in my life. All seemed to work about the same for me as long as I did not get tried of the taste especially when they get warm. Of the different Perpetuem flavors, I have had the best luck with the Cafe Latte. Maybe, it is because my brain thinks coffee flavor should be warm. I am presently using a custom formula of Infinite and it works well. I tried their standard formulas but the flavor is too strong and I tire of it quickly. My custom formula has very little flavor to it.
Thanks for the input.
Considering it has been what i have been using so far, i am going to probably stick with it and maybe change up the mix a little bit.
What strength do you mix at? I found the recommended guidelines work well for me. I only use it on the bike, and at times feel like a lighter mix so I’ll supplement with gel. Though after my disaster this last weekend I might have faired better had I skipped the gels and went with the recommended mix rate.
Was using the recommended dosage as per the back of the tub.
I still manage to bonk while using it which is why i find it weird. Have been throwing in some bars and gels on longer (4+ hour) rides and it seems to help.
Maybe i will try and use a little less of the recommended mix, add in a gel per hour and bar every two?
It honestly could be that i overload my system trying to get too many calories in before the run.
I was aiming for around 400-500 cal an hour but after doing some research…that may be too high considering im 5’7 and weigh 136lbs.
Holy Jeez, yeah that’s a lot. I aim for 300 cal/hr, I’m 5’10 and 155-ish. On the run, 150 cals/hr or so. Typically a gel per hour plus whatever I drink on course.
Thanks mate.
Going to get some Perp and the apple oatmeal bars…which are by far the best tasting bar out there. Absolutely amazing.
Going to cut the calorie intake to around 300-275 per hour and add in a gel when i need a kick.
I swore by this last year throughout IM training and didn’t have great results during final race. Personally I needed more solid food. I’ve switched to Osmo or Skratch (24oz per hour) and solid food (Clif bars, Honey Stinger Waffles and bananas). I’m finding a much more balanced ride and stronger on the run so far.
Biggest problem is what this site noted on the front page article: how do you get 5-6 bottles of Osmo during the bike leg of an IM with only 2 bottle holders?
I’d recommend you try maltodextrin if cost is at all an issue.
$60 for 50 lbs shipped online. Yes, it’s a boatload , but lasts friggin’ forever. Much cheaper, and if it works for you, you’ve now got a multiyear supply of fuel, for both racing and training for $60, or about the cost of 1.3 tubs of perpetuem.
I use it for IM’s and most rides of 2 hours+. I’ve had good experiences with it. I use the Cafe Latte flavor and I put another 200 calories worth of vanilla Hammer Gel in the bottle. Gives me +/- 450 calories, and it’s reasonably palatable even when warm.
Ben
400 + is a lot of calories for 136 lbs. I’m 145-150 and go with 275 on the bike and 235 on the run. I use Infint. For the run I use a soft flask. Take a hit right before the aid station and wash it down with water. Easily duplicated on all runs over 10-11 miles or so as well so I know it works for me. Custom blend too so I have the electrolytes included in the flask. I’ve got a little protein on the bike to give my stomach a fuller feeling and some caffeine on the run.
I have been using this all season so far and have found it okay(thought not amazing).
What are your thoughts? Anything else you recommend trying?
I found it worked well up to around 4-5 hours and then my stomach soured. It works great for me (coffee flavor only and I make sure to mix it with the real thing) before the swim of an IM or for only 90km or less of the bike. then I have to stop it. but dayum, I LOVE the taste of that stuff and it keeps me full (not hungry).
Have to tried the solids? I’ve moved onto them for long rides. Look at the Hammer Nutrition info. They talk about replinishing vs. replacing calories. “We” probably eat way too much on the bike…
I do fine on the prescribed amount for my weight, but I do need to eat something solid on long bikes. I haven’t raced longer than 70.3 with Perpetuem yet but I haven’t had any really bad luck with it so far. I do carry straight honey with me in a Go-Tube to for a little extra pick me up.
I have tried many different sports drinks in my life. All seemed to work about the same for me as long as I did not get tried of the taste especially when they get warm. Of the different Perpetuem flavors, I have had the best luck with the Cafe Latte. Maybe, it is because my brain thinks coffee flavor should be warm. I am presently using a custom formula of Infinite and it works well. I tried their standard formulas but the flavor is too strong and I tire of it quickly. My custom formula has very little flavor to it.
I could of wrote yours. Was happy with perpetuem but switched to custom infinite for anything long....
400 cal??? Try 200 and if you feel a bonk(you won’t) just take in a little more. Way more people puke than bonk, no way you can handle 400 cal.
switched to infinit and never looked back. going to tweak my formula a bit. definitely reduce “flavor” if you plan on mixing a super bottle for an IM.
I mix 1/3 Sustained Energy and 2/3 Perpetuem. They’re the endurance fuel alright.
I have no GI issues during 21 miles training run.
You will laugh at my inexperience with this as a show as to how screwed up my nutrition was
Welland Half Iron Distance
-Goal was a sub 5hr race, as it was early in the season and I just wanted to get a race under my belt after final exams had finished
Pre race
1 gel, hammer bar(6am, start at 8)
swim: 30:34 swim
Bike 2:28
(get ready to yell at the screen)
Bottle 1- 3 scoops of perp plus one scoop of eload fly
bottle 2- 2 hammer electrolyte tabs
3 honey stinger waffles
3 gels
Total cal just on the bike= was around 1000 cal
Looking back, I now know why i felt like i did on the run…2:12 instead of my projected 1:45-1:50
Thanks for all the input, will definitely cut back on the cal intake
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