Wonderful 5 minutes savoring this. Can’t wait for the book. Love the mix of emotion but also numbers. Still can’t get over the watts he pushes, especially as he got so lean.
Wonderful 5 minutes savoring this. Can’t wait for the book. Love the mix of emotion but also numbers. Still can’t get over the watts he pushes, especially as he got so lean.
http://m.guardiannews.com/...ort&type=article
Bad. Ass.
Thanks for the great read.
Targeting 450W for a TT on the last Saturday, does the BS detector go on for anybody else?
i’m highly suspicious of all this. It’s not the 450W at 70kg, per se, but rather still targeting 450W on the last Saturday of the Tour. Wiggo is so fast that long term fatigue can’t catch up to him.
Lance and crew did 440 if I’m not mistaken and were juiced to the gills…
Things that make you go Hummmmm
That’s 5.8w/kg. What did you expect him to target?
And a bit heavier than Wiggins. If I recall 460w was uphill on the last climb of the day. >450w on a slightly rolling TT, well…hmmmmm as you said.
That’s 5.8w/kg. What did you expect him to target?
Isn’t it close to 6.5w/kg? That’s a lot for a long TT on a course like that.
That’s 5.8w/kg. What did you expect him to target?
check your math. 450W at 70kg is 6.42w/kg. If he did this for an hour-record attempt, I wouldn’t bat an eye.
btw, 5.8w/kg is what Froome did in the time trial in last year’s Vuelta. Granted, the heat probably knocked his power down a bit (temperature in the low 80’s that day vs the low 70’s for Wiggin’s TdF time trial)
Yes. It’s 6.42w/kg. And he says ‘higher than 450’…On a relatively flat TT, after 19 days of racing…I’m expressing the same doubts I expressed during the Tour.
And the same doubts I expressed back in 1999.
And at the end of the tour.
I went by his wikipedia weight of 77kg. I have no idea how much he actually weighs.
edit: actually it was google that said 77. In any case, I wouldn’t trust any weight or power numbers quoted by anyone.
Great read. Thanks for posting.
Not accusing anyone obviously but it doesn’t seem that much different from the 6.7w/kg uphill efforts, for a shorter duration, during the Lance era. I mean since everyone claims it’s that much cleaner now…
Are these numbers accounting for the Osymetric chain rings? dont they cause SRMs to read around 5-10% high?
Are these numbers accounting for the Osymetric chain rings? dont they cause SRMs to read around 5-10% high?
ha, now we talking. The number is actually closer to 3%, I think. I won’t comment on feasibility of 6.2w/kg (335W at 70kg) the second to last day of a GT.
Of course it’s much cleaner…
It ways has been!
Not accusing anyone obviously but it doesn’t seem that much different from the 6.7w/kg uphill efforts, for a shorter duration, during the Lance era. I mean since everyone claims it’s that much cleaner now…
Sorry Bjorn not picking on you as I have similar views but note to Slowman isn’t this thread (and several others I’ve seen recently) full of the kind of thing my account was blocked for recently? Living by rules is fine but they have to be consistent and they are clearly not unless you have blocked several accounts from this thread. Was it just you didn’t like that I discussed a particular individual in my post but other individuas are fine to discuss? I’m genuinely interested to know.
Many thanks,
Craig
Are these numbers accounting for the Osymetric chain rings? dont they cause SRMs to read around 5-10% high?
ha, now we talking. The number is actually closer to 3%, I think. I won’t comment on feasibility of 6.2w/kg (335W at 70kg) the second to last day of a GT.
+1
http://forum.slowtwitch.com/cgi-bin/gforum.cgi?post=4201113#4201113 the small sample size data to back this up. If you believe the studies by Osymetric you also would have to consider the wattage increase from the rings. Which they say is 7%, they used an ergometer for the study so IF we take this data asvalue his power number without osymetric chainrings at the same effort would have measured 10% lower (405w, 5.8w/kg). That is a huge if… I’m not willing to give him more than 3% power increase for the actual rings + 3% inflation = 6% higher reading (423w, 6.0w/kg). And even that is questionable. Either way I don’t know what he can do or what is feasible at the end of a grand tour.
Lance was closer to 7w/kg whilst being looked after by Michelle http://www.sportsscientists.com/2009/07/tour-de-france-2009-power-estimates.html
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