Glutes & Race Wheels

Ok, this is might sound weird…

I have used my race wheels 4 times: 40K (TT), 20K (Tri), 40K (Tri), 30K (Tri). Everytime I use them, I cant help but notice that my glutes are being worked quite a bit. It’s almost instant too that I can feel them being used as soon as I get on the bike. I usually race at a cadence of low - mid 90’s (during tri’s), and I notice that the lower the cadence, the more I feel it (going up hills, or during a flat TT when I usually have a cadence of high 80’s).

I NEVER feel this on my training wheels during training rides, or on the stationary trainers (mag or fluid), but ONLY when I have my 404’s on. Original thought that it might be the increased stiffness of the wheels, but I can only speculate at this point.

Anyone experience anything similar?

Could it be that when you have your race wheels on your actually racing therefore working harder than when you don’t have your race wheels on? ; )


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Er, are you sure that it’s not just that you’re working harder because it’s a race?

Deja-vu!

I dont think so because I never feel that in a spin workout where I am usually pushing harder gears, and working a lot harder than race pace.

My guess is the increased drag feel of the wheels makes you notice the adjustment in muscle patterns. I noticed this the first few times I rode my 404’s as well…they feel different - maybe because of the wind they’re catching, maybe the spokes are different, who know - they felt heavier, stiffer, and my legs felt different. I found that they made my gearing feel different too…I wasn’t riding in the same gears I was used to with training wheels.

It’s probably all the extra effort you are putting forth trying to catch me…

I’m a bit slow today :slight_smile:
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My guess is the increased drag feel of the wheels makes you notice the adjustment in muscle patterns.

INCREASED!?!?!?!?

Good lord, I sure as hell hope I dont have increased drag w/ race wheels on!!!

wait till wed when we see what the bike splits are mr. pj, even w/ a dropped chain

I’m referring to the increased drag “feel”…you feel the wind pushing on the rim a whole lot more with a deep wheel than with a trainer, especially sidewinds. Sure, you’re faster, but you can still feel the wind pushing against that surface area…you don;t always “slice” through the wind. It’s just like if you’re windsurfing, when you catch the wind you definitely pick up speed, but you still have to work harder to resist against it to get that effect (sail feels “heavy”)…that’s the drag “feel” I was referring too.

I have two numbers that matter…

1:50:10

and

1:53:45

Are you on a road bike, and are you putting on clip on aero bars?

nope, riding a Cervelo Dual tri bike.

and I might add that sometimes I do ride at “race pace” during my training rides (every once in a while), and never feel it with the training wheels.

It’s because they are dimpled.

my butt cheeks are not dimpled! :-p

It’s those damn Tufo’s…that’s what it feels like to pedal against high rolling resistance.

I was curious. I can remember back during the road season, when we would do the occasional TT, we would slap the clips on the road bike and hammer it. Our glutes would be wrecked for two days, from trying to slam down low in the front, still being slack in the seatpost. Are you riding it in the back seat position, or front?

I did the first three races with the seat post clamp facing forward, but the saddle pushed back. I moved the saddle forward 1 cm ~ 6 weeks ago, but no change in feeling w/ race wheels.

It could be because you are racing: ie it may not have anything to do with the wheels - I think it is unlikely that it does.

When you come out of the water are you cold? If so, this numbness may be impairing the ability of your more extreme muscles to work hard, and since your glutes are closest to the core, they might be the warmest thus are functioning a little better than the rest.

I have found this too during races. I suggest maybe pushing it a bit less at the start, giving yourself more time to warm up by spinning a higher cadence and waiting for your legs to feel ok before moving to race pace. For me, this above sensation was related to a tight ligament traversing my hip and coccyx, so maybe a lack of flexibility in your glute region may be a factor too.