General Thoughts on Elon Musk?

Yeah, it is pretty funny.

I don’t have a tesla, but the people I know that bought them recently didn’t buy them to virtue signal. They just bought them because they were cheap to buy, and cheap to own/operate. Or a few others bought them because they were very fast. More adrenaline junkies than virtuous types.

But, the way this is all going, I think Elon is gonna sink his company fast. 'Cause trumpers don’t buy teslas.

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User Gary Koepnick asked the AI which person spreads the most information on Twitter/X—and the service did not hesitate in pointing a finger at its creator.

“Based on various analyses, social media sentiment, and reports, Elon Musk has been identified as one of the most significant spreaders of misinformation on X since he acquired the platform,” it wrote, later adding “Musk has made numerous posts that have been criticized for promoting or endorsing misinformation, especially related to political events, elections, health issues like COVID-19, and conspiracy theories. His endorsements or interactions with content from controversial figures or accounts with a history of spreading misinformation have also contributed to this perception.”

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the meta analysis of this is that the machines will turn on all of us one day.

this is what I think too. You do not become the richest person in the world by doing anything other than thinking about your personal success.

The operation seeks “super high-IQ small-government revolutionaries willing to work 80+ hours per week on unglamorous cost-cutting,” an announcement on X says, per the Washington Post. “Indeed, this will be tedious work, make lots of enemies & compensation is zero,” Musk posted in response to an X user on Thursday. “What a great deal!” the world’s richest man added, along with a laughing emoji.

Musk Pitches New Hires: 80 Hours, ‘Zero’ Compensation

Yeah, that is so cool that one can use such investments to win bigly off the corruption of the trump administration.

Yay America!

#very fine people on both sides

Seems like it is smoke and mirrors. With everything else Elon has going on I am sure he won’t be working anywhere near those hours on this. Of course he is funding his space ventures on gov’t money as well. If I was going to work 80 hrs a week without compensation I would be working for Mother Theresa or Doctors without borders.

He’s simply explaining the how and why of overtime wages not being taxed in Trump’s new plan. : )

Way off topic, but nice title:

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Ha. Thanks.

Agreed. The SpaceX gov’t contracts that Musk got, probably made him realize that there’s a huuuge amount of future $$ at stake, across other industries.

And being personally snubbed/excluded by the Biden admin on that EV summit event, likely bruised his ego enough to look over to the Republicans.

This is a very interesting point worth digging into.

There are two extremes of a hierarchal worldview. One is that that everything can be ranked in terms of quality, and that those at the top are there because they earned it and deserve it. The other extreme is that no one is better than the other, and that any position within the hierarchy comes through external factors (like being born into wealth) or an unfair system (racism, cronyism, cheating, etc.) The truth likely lies somewhere in the middle.

Having said that, Republicans, and more importantly Trumpers, tend to fall heavily in the first camp (they’ve done studies). These people look at Elon Musk and think, “If he’s the richest in the world, then he must be the smartest and hardest working.” Even if you take into consideration apartheid, and family wealth, you have to admit that he’s done better than others with similar advantages, and that he is clearly fairly intelligent, and probably pretty hard working.

The big piece missing here is greed and megalomania.

There’s this weird clear misperception among those who believe in hierarchies that those at the top are not only the most smart, and the most hard working, but also the most good. While it’s entirely possible that whatever Musk does in his new role benefits the country in someway, his main driver will be benefitting himself.

FWIW, I don’t think he’ll be there in two years. There’s no way Trump’s ego and Musk’s ego will be able to work with each other.

Richest man in the world asks you to do his work for free.

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Well he’s got two cults to draw from so he might succeed in getting people to work for free.

Now that he supports trump, I will buy a truck from him if he has a diesel powered electric vehicle.

Not only that to submit your resume you have to buy a premium membership on X for 84 dollars!. You have to pay to apply for the job. LOL

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No amount of money or free work is too much in the pursuit of power.

I find the Elon hate kind of weird.
He is the exact same guy people on the left loved for selling $10,000 flamethrowers and smoking weed on a live podcast and his cars were a status symbol amongst the left for years.

Then he ran afoul of California with COVID and the left turned on him pretty hard. But he is the same weird outspoken somewhat autistic workaholic he has always been.

I don’t think he is the second coming of Jesus or hang off his every word but his multiple large scale business successes are undeniable and I think it’s fair to say he is an extremely effective leader and visionary. Is he a weird person with some obvious personality flaws/quirks? Absolutely. I don’t think you get anywhere near his level of success/wealth without being wired differently. I know a couple of people who had some business success (start ups they sold in the 7-8 figures type thing) and both of them basically retired immediately afterwards. They still take on things that interest them but their priorities definitely shifted towards family/leisure. I think that is what most “normal” people would do.

I just don’t really accept the vilification of him over the last few years.

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I think that you raise some valid points and I can’t speak to all of them. But for those of us who see trump as a criminal and a conman, it is hard to watch him support trump without thinking of him as someone who supports a criminal and a conman. When most ethical people run away from someone like trump, Musk runs to him and helps him.

If he had supported just about any other Republican, I think the response to him would be a little different.

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Elon Musk is the reason you don’t let engineers talk to customers or make policy decisions. He is smart, and what he is doing is working (for him), but he is low class and has no soft skills.

STEM personnel should stay in the basement while statesmen run things (unfortunately we are lacking leaders right now).