GCN TT bike vs roadie 30mph challenge

Pretty cool. I have taken it up myself to TT on a roadie instead of time trial specific bike. So wonder how fast Si would have gone on the TT bike here

https://youtu.be/X7zZ4OROgeQ

Here? Where?

Assume he’s talking about this:

youtube.com/X7zZ4OROgeQ

Edit: Video doesn’t seem to be posting (I probably got the same error he did).

Back when I did my local 8 mile frequently I’d be 2+ minutes faster on the tt bike than road bike. Aero road bike and everything. It’s like we use tt bikes for a reason…

Back when I did my local 8 mile frequently I’d be 2+ minutes faster on the tt bike than road bike. Aero road bike and everything. It’s like we use tt bikes for a reason…

well Si came with in 7 seconds of ollie’s time on TT bike, so 7 second gain but the bike can only be used for specific races makes you think. My TT bike sees the road 5 times a year. Anyways I think my newish trek madone will be more aero than my 2015 felt b16 TT bike (for sale btw) so I will see how close I can match my efforts this year

youtu.be/X7zZ4OROgeQ

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Back when I did my local 8 mile frequently I’d be 2+ minutes faster on the tt bike than road bike. Aero road bike and everything. It’s like we use tt bikes for a reason…

well Si came with in 7 seconds of ollie’s time on TT bike, so 7 second gain but the bike can only be used for specific races makes you think. My TT bike sees the road 5 times a year. Anyways I think my newish trek madone will be more aero than my 2015 felt b16 TT bike (for sale btw) so I will see how close I can match my efforts this year

Si also put out 50W more than Ollie, and is lighter; so the apes to apples would be a lot more than 7 sec.

Back when I did my local 8 mile frequently I’d be 2+ minutes faster on the tt bike than road bike. Aero road bike and everything. It’s like we use tt bikes for a reason…

well Si came with in 7 seconds of ollie’s time on TT bike, so 7 second gain but the bike can only be used for specific races makes you think. My TT bike sees the road 5 times a year. Anyways I think my newish trek madone will be more aero than my 2015 felt b16 TT bike (for sale btw) so I will see how close I can match my efforts this year

The base bar height on my tri bike is about halfway between the hoods and drops on my road bike, so riding on the base bar would give me a position similar to Si’s. My testing has shown that for the same power, the base bar position costs me nearly 2mph vs the aerobar position. It ain’t how aero the bike is, its how aero YOU are on the bike. To equal my tri bike time on my road bike, I’d either need to duplicate my tri position (including the aero bars), or put out another 40-50w…

What a useless test, 30 mph/50kph…for how long is an average cyclist going to be able to hold that speed.

Why don’t that do a test at 20mph to see the difference…

No way your madone is even close to the felt, at least with proper fit in both bikes. The real difference comes from the position, not the frame itself. The advantage of the TT bike is that it allows a much more streamlined position with less effort.

No way your madone is even close to the felt, at least with proper fit in both bikes. The real difference comes from the position, not the frame itself. The advantage of the TT bike is that it allows a much more streamlined position with less effort.

If he wants to think he is smarter than everyone else, I say let him try. You know what, all of the top pros use TT bikes in time trial stages I only because the sponsor wants them to. Not because they are faster. All of the top pros ride tri bikes for the same reason. Go ahead, roll your Madone for every tri and time trial. Especially the ones I am entered in also.

I may not be the smartest person around, but I am more than capable of admitting some folks are a lot smarter than me and I should take their knowledge and data and follow it.

No way your madone is even close to the felt, at least with proper fit in both bikes. The real difference comes from the position, not the frame itself. The advantage of the TT bike is that it allows a much more streamlined position with less effort.

If he wants to think he is smarter than everyone else, I say let him try. You know what, all of the top pros use TT bikes in time trial stages I only because the sponsor wants them to. Not because they are faster. All of the top pros ride tri bikes for the same reason. Go ahead, roll your Madone for every tri and time trial. Especially the ones I am entered in also.

I may not be the smartest person around, but I am more than capable of admitting some folks are a lot smarter than me and I should take their knowledge and data and follow it.

I know a tri bike will be faster. But I am doing it for the challenge to see how close you can get. I want to get fitter, dont care about going technologically faster

What a useless test, 30 mph/50kph…for how long is an average cyclist going to be able to hold that speed.

Why don’t that do a test at 20mph to see the difference…

Except that this wasn’t presented as or intended to be an A/B comparison between 2 bikes. It was a challenge to see if Si could do 30mph with one hand tied behind his back…

Back when I did my local 8 mile frequently I’d be 2+ minutes faster on the tt bike than road bike. Aero road bike and everything. It’s like we use tt bikes for a reason…

well Si came with in 7 seconds of ollie’s time on TT bike, so 7 second gain but the bike can only be used for specific races makes you think. My TT bike sees the road 5 times a year. Anyways I think my newish trek madone will be more aero than my 2015 felt b16 TT bike (for sale btw) so I will see how close I can match my efforts this year

Si also put out 50W more than Ollie, and is lighter; so the apes to apples would be a lot more than 7 sec.

Another way to put it is Ollie went 50W easier, weighs more, and still beat Si by 7 seconds.

No way your madone is even close to the felt, at least with proper fit in both bikes. The real difference comes from the position, not the frame itself. The advantage of the TT bike is that it allows a much more streamlined position with less effort.

If he wants to think he is smarter than everyone else, I say let him try. You know what, all of the top pros use TT bikes in time trial stages I only because the sponsor wants them to. Not because they are faster. All of the top pros ride tri bikes for the same reason. Go ahead, roll your Madone for every tri and time trial. Especially the ones I am entered in also.

I may not be the smartest person around, but I am more than capable of admitting some folks are a lot smarter than me and I should take their knowledge and data and follow it.

Welcome to the world of synthetic, the guy that rides on rubber tires and runs on 10 year old shoes.

Good on Synthetic. He’s doing it to see how fast he can go on a road bike - never claimed that he was going to win open TTs. It’s a challenge. Pretty sure I can beat most people here if I’m on a recumbent - doesn’t make me smarter or a better rider.

Pretty sure I can beat most people here if I’m on a recumbent - doesn’t make me smarter or a better rider.

There’s a troll over on Bikeforums that would argue otherwise to the grave. Gosh almighty that dude is an ass. Pops up with some irrelevant brag comment in so many topics with that crap.

Good on Synthetic. He’s doing it to see how fast he can go on a road bike - never claimed that he was going to win open TTs. It’s a challenge. Pretty sure I can beat most people here if I’m on a recumbent - doesn’t make me smarter or a better rider.

Then you don’t know his MO. He’s selling his TT bike and going full roadie. That means that in a few months he’s gonna be in here complaining that people are tech-doping for riding TT bikes, and that true racers do with on road bikes and rubber tires. The same thing he does whenever carbon running shoes are brought up

Good on Synthetic. He’s doing it to see how fast he can go on a road bike - never claimed that he was going to win open TTs. It’s a challenge. Pretty sure I can beat most people here if I’m on a recumbent - doesn’t make me smarter or a better rider.

Then you don’t know his MO. He’s selling his TT bike and going full roadie. That means that in a few months he’s gonna be in here complaining that people are tech-doping for riding TT bikes, and that true racers do with on road bikes and rubber tires. The same thing he does whenever carbon running shoes are brought up

You dont understand me when it comes to the tech wars. I would complain about Ollie bragging that he is a better cyclist than Si because he beat him by 7 seconds on a TT bike.

Ha! What have I let myself in for? We’ll have to see.