Full wetsuits rock

I replied earlier to someone that was looking to buy a full Ironman brand wetsuit and this is some additional information about two full suits that I tried out today. Until last night, my wetsuit experience was limited to what I had, a sleeveless Ironman brand Instinct. However, after reading the posts about the 60 degree water in AZ, I thought I might want to try a full suit. My association with a local tri shop allowed me to take two suits down to our local spring fed swimming area and give them a try. I am a bad swimmer, but I am improving, and I am just going to note the differences that I felt between the two suits. Also, different body types and swimming styles might benefit more from one suit to another.

Before anyone jumps in and tries to sabotage this thread with cries of learn to swim and quit using the wetsuit as a floatie, please just start a new thread or add to the old one about the pros and cons of wetsuit use.

The two suits were a an Xterra vortex and last year’s Desoto T1. The top of the Desoto was the higher end and the bib john was the lower mode.

Immediately after putting on the Xterra and going for a swim I noticed a key difference between my sleeveless and having buoyancy in the sleeves. My arms wanted to go to an “elbows high” position automatically instead of me having to put them there. I could see this as being quite helpful towards the end of a race when I get tired and my pull starts to drop. This suit felt good, but though it was M/L, I had a bit too much material to work with compared to my IM sleeveless that fit like a glove, but was a bit tight around the neck. When I got out of the water, I realized that I had some water trapped in the suit. Obviously, you are going to have some water underneath, but this was a noticeable amount. I pulled back the suit by the ankles and watched as water poured out. It was less than a quart, but that bothered me. I went back in and swam around to see if it would happen again. It did. I am not sure where the water came in, but it was discouraging. Honestly, I think it was a size issue and not a fault of the suit, but I wanted to point that out so that others that are looking at suits can check for this. It would really suck to swim an IM with a quart of water by your feet. Other than that, I liked it.

Two piece suits always scared me. It just didn’t make sense how a two piece suit could fit tight enough to not let water in, but amazingly it does. It was hard putting on, but that’s because I was already wet, so I just jumped in the water with half of it on and then it slipped on easily. Though I am a crap swimmer, I recently had a breakthrough with timing of the roll and the reach, and with both my current wetsuit and the xterra, I can’t get into the rhythm that I have when I am not wearing a suit. However, with the Desoto, I felt free to roll and I still had the benefit of full buoyancy of my arms and legs. I liked it so much I just kept swimming and ended up doing my workout in it. Afterward, I took off the top and swam a bit with just the bib part and felt pretty cool except you do start taking on water.

Final notes. I did not get any chaffing from either suit opposed to my sleeveless which will leave nice red marks under my arms if I don’t use body glide. Also, I did heat up more with the full suits, something that never happens with my sleeveless. For me, I am going to to go with the Desoto, but I just wanted to pass this info along to anyone that is looking at buying a wetsuit and is confused about what to get. I hope it helps.

Water will “get in”…it is a “wetsuit”…not a dry suit…

OK, how about “without letting too much water in” Will that make you happy?

Good to hear. I’m sure that you’ll tear up the bike once you get out of the water.

I generally feel that as long as the arms don’t fill up with water, a little bit of water is expected and o.k. Generally I think that it is the area around the small of your back that fills up a little bit. Somewhat eliminated by the two piece design.

I am getting water in the sleeves of my expensive orca pflex… it’s heavy and uncomfortable… So i am doing last minutes wetsuits trying right now. if the water wasn’t 60 degrees, I would stick with my sleevless. I wish there was a wetsuit that just felt perfect… yet to find it!

I’ve worn wetsuits for years both as hobby (tri and scuba) and job necessity (deep sea diver). You’re always going to have water inside the wetsuit. It’s a miniscual amount and shouldn’t “pool” in the suit and shouldn’t flow out when the suit is removed. That’s water is what your body heats in order to keep yourself warmer in the suit. If the wetsuit fits poorly, i.e., loose fitting at the neck, arm, and leg closures, or excess amounts of loose neoprene around the trunk and extremities 1.) from the loose closures you’re going to get more water entering/exiting the wetsuit which if you have a continuous flow of water through the suit your body is never warming the water continuously flowing and this defeats the purpose ot the suit 2.) if you have loose neoprene around the trunk or extremities your going to get a pooling effect of the water in the suit which will require more energy to heat the pooled water and although may not be as serious as a continuous flow still defeats the purpose of the suit.

When I spent numerous hours (>6) I’d do anything to get and maintain that warmth. Peeing and standing on my head so it would run down my back and then flip-flopping so it would run into my booties, pouring coffee down the neck. Nothing like a good pee when you had to chop a hole in the ice to get in the water.

Yeah, obviously a suit has to have some water in it to heat up and keep you warm, but I was amazed at how much came out of the one piece. Until I tried on these two suits, I always thought wetsuits were pretty much the same, but it seems like that is about as incorrect as saying a bike is a bike.

Either way, I doubt any wetsuit will keep me even close to your pace…unless it had a motor attached to it. How’s the elbow?