I did a similar thing in the 100/100 run challenge a few years back, sub 20min 5k everday for a month. Similar effect here, but day 32 fully burned out. Wish back then had the HRV tracking and what not. The 30"/60" result in this test is interesting too:
being that its off seasons and 100/100 is about to end. do we have any takers for this week challenge? ramp test is fine
Sounds like a great way to get injured or create the underlying problems for a subsequent injury in the coming days?
being this is on the bike dont see injury happening. unless you go with that moving trainer, which doesnt make much sense as something that moves side to side
What happens if you do an FTP test every day for an entire week?
You stopped doing FTP testing after about day 2 or 3.
I did a 23min TimeTrial on Wednesday night. Dug very deep and did end up with TP coming up with a new higher FTP estimate. Iâve been toast for the rest of the week. Absolutely no way if I empty the tank to that degree (which is close to âFTP testâ effort) Iâm getting close to that the next day. Let alone 7 days in a row.
Equally, whilst the run every day or swim every day, etc challenges I can sort of see some appeal and marvel at the consistency/dedication, doing 'very hard 20min effort for 1 week neither appeals or impresses.
That said, if this is your kink, who am I to question. Youâre not harming any annimals and kids, so crack on, you do you.
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I did.
So where did you come up with " you would stop with ftp testing by day 2 or 3"?
His âFTP numberâ increased 13% in a week.
The number may have, but his FTP sure as s**t didnât.
ipso facto, he didnât do âFTP Testingâ for seven days.
This was a very effective demonstration of why âFTP Testsâ that many people use arenât particularly useful as an actual method to establish FTP. And protocols that are actually effective arenât going to be something that many (never say never, I guess) people can do seven days in a row.
I donât even like doing FTP testing for one day.
well as you saw in the video, his next one will be the real test
Hence, where I âcame up withâ what I wrote.
Heâs going to follow this up and test to see if he can hold this final number for an hour, the âgold standardâ. And he definitely should.
Once. Not every day for a week.
Because what he just did wasnât in any meaningful way FTP testing.
The whole ftp thing is so dumb. Itâs vaguely okay to determine rough ability but incredibly non specific. Cavendish surely has a higher FTP via ramp test than Blummenfelt, but my money is on Blu for a 1h tt.
Things more important than ftp: aero, weight, 3min power, power at 4.0mmol (or any number), durability, cornering ability, tire pressure
Tests that reliably correlate to actual FTP tend to be pretty damn hard, which has led to a lot of less difficult surrogates that tend to have a confidence interval on par with what is shown in this video. If you do enough of them, quantity can brute force useful numbers out of them, but just having a power meter on your bike every darn time you ride does a pretty darn good job of that as well.
I have basically memorized a set of speeches that I have to give to training clients in regard to the typical pitfalls of FTP based training metrics, with the predictable shortcomings adjusted for each athleteâs particular phenotype.
I never think of FTP as a precise number, but more of a range. My FTP is estimated at 250, which I think of as 240-260.
This video seems to show the same thing. Obviously no one adds 51 watts/ 14 percent in a week. Iâm really not sure what he set out to prove, other than the dangers of using FTP as an exact measure of oneâs biking ability.
Your right, no one adds 14% to FTP in a week, but there is some effect going on.
I think that what the video shows is adapting to the test rather than rapid fitness increase. I am also sure that there is an accompanying fitness increase due to the training load, just not 51 watts worth.
Well yeah depending on your fitness going in you could gain fitness by repeating the same effort every day for a week. Going from sedentary to 20 min walking a day would increase measured fitness. MVDP doing a 5-10 min all out effort everyday might also appear to boost fitness in that same 5-10 min range, even if due to nothing more than shedding fatigue (tapering).
Thereâs so much context to fitness and cycling that GCN glosses over for the sake of a cool thumbnail.
Well they needed to come up with some content where they could plug the Wahoo trainer.
he is setting to prove that sometimes people mentally hold themselves back, before real physical limiters come to play. yes indeed he became more efficient over time in gaming the test