I know this is essentially a meaningless coincidence, but I realized that my 5 rep squat strength of 225 pounds is the same number as my FTP of 225 watts. Just curious where others fall on the spectrum. I’m 5’11, 165 pounds.
(I’m not intending to start the perennial “does weightlifting help my running/cycling/triathlon/swimming?” debate.)
I’m curious about this with other people.
I don’t squat a lot. I’m usually doing around 185x5 with an FTP of 275ish.
Now leg press I’m pushing around 365x5.
man, your going to have to define the squat type and how low do you go thing 
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Over the last 2 years my squat has gone down and FTP up, I know I couldn’t squat my FTP now, not even close to it!
I know this is essentially a meaningless coincidence, but I realized that my 5 rep squat strength of 225 pounds is the same number as my FTP of 225 watts. Just curious where others fall on the spectrum. I’m 5’11, 165 pounds.
(I’m not intending to start the perennial “does weightlifting help my running/cycling/triathlon/swimming?” debate.)
Interesting. I can squat around 190 5 times, FTP currently around 305 (320++ during season).
-Physiojoe
I can confirm 2 things (my personal experience) about correlation, is that the more that I’m able to lift, the higher my wattage numbers, and the more that I’m able to lift for longer periods - say 30 reps relates to higher sustained wattage.
I’m 150lbs - 1 rep max leg press, just this past week a new pr 520lbs, and 5 x 450lbs, then moved to the hack squat machine and did 5 x 130lbs single leg hacks on each leg… the next day on my trainer I did 2 x 20’ at a new sustained wattage… this now equates to about a 335 FTP, my goal is this offseason is to get it up to 355 to 360 for 60’, or about 390 for 20’. My end of season FTP was 320… so with a focus in this offseason I’ve knocked it up 15 watts in the past 1.5 months.
I can’t squat large weights anymore since I have to be carefull with my back.
I know it’s controversial to talk about the impact of weight lifting and cycling performance, but it works for me, as a gauge to progress.
I can barely walk up the stairs and I have an FTP of 302. What does that mean?
It could mean you are really really really heavy Whats your FTP/kg?
Now that I think of it… FTP is kind of irrellavent in this argument, since one man’s 300 is different from another’s b/c of so many factors. We should be correlating bike speed… my 320 at the end of the season is about 26 mph in a 40k TT, but with a 335 it may be 26.65. But I’m working on improving my position on the TT bike so hopefully I won’t have to work as hard for speed.
I can barely walk up the stairs and I have an FTP of 302. What does that mean?
Depends on how much % inflation you use on your FTP when posting to ST. /pink
I can barely walk up the stairs and I have an FTP of 302. What does that mean?
Ha ha…considering there are alot of people out there who can squat alot more with a far smaller FTP, I’m closer to you, physiologically.
-Physiojoe
man, your going to have to define the squat type and how low do you go thing
Regular low-bar squat to parallel or below. None of those barely bending your knees squats.
I don’t think there’s any consistency across leg press machines, whether standalone or plate loaded. They all have different mechanical advantages, angles, and unloaded weights, so I don’t think you can ever compare one machine to another. But a pound on a barbell is always a pound on a barbell.
I could squat 350ish ass to ankles when I first started to cycle…my FTP was crap. A few years later, my FTP is decent but I would be surprised if I could do a ass to ankles 250 lb squat anymore (don’t lift legs anymore). I also just started playing basketball again and have lost at least 12 inches off my vertical jump. So for me, it is more of an inverse correlation if anything.
squat has a lot of technique and is only legit if the top of your leg is completely parallel to the floor or lower. squat machines as leg press are on 45* angle so with less gravity is probably 1/3 of what you can do on a squat. so why dont we use the dealift instead here it is harder to cheat
I can probably barely squat 155 5 times, and my FTP was ~335 at the end of last season. I’m 5’10" and ~153 lbs. I’m not sure if there’s much correlation…
I’m 150lbs - 1 rep max leg press, just this past week a new pr 520lbs, and 5 x 450lbs, then moved to the hack squat machine and did 5 x 130lbs single leg hacks on each leg… the next day on my trainer I did 2 x 20’ at a new sustained wattage… this now equates to about a 335 FTP, my goal is this offseason is to get it up to 355 to 360 for 60’, or about 390 for 20’. My end of season FTP was 320… so with a focus in this offseason I’ve knocked it up 15 watts in the past 1.5 months.
I can’t squat large weights anymore since I have to be carefull with my back.
You just PR’d your squat but you can’t squat heavy weight anymore???
It could mean you are really really really heavy Whats your FTP/kg?
I weighed 125 when I tested with my quarq. So 302/56.7. I’m really weak, in fact I’m working on strength/core work right now.
I can dump a kilo on the squatty potty. What would that make my FTP?
I’m 150lbs - 1 rep max leg press, just this past week a new pr 520lbs, and 5 x 450lbs, then moved to the hack squat machine and did 5 x 130lbs single leg hacks on each leg… the next day on my trainer I did 2 x 20’ at a new sustained wattage… this now equates to about a 335 FTP, my goal is this offseason is to get it up to 355 to 360 for 60’, or about 390 for 20’. My end of season FTP was 320… so with a focus in this offseason I’ve knocked it up 15 watts in the past 1.5 months.
I can’t squat large weights anymore since I have to be carefull with my back.
You just PR’d your squat but you can’t squat heavy weight anymore???
I’m very careful with my back, I go past parallel on all moves for full range of movement, I’m fairly flexible when my muscles are warmed up… I’ve lifted weights now for 30 years off and on… I did mega squats too many times and probably improperly in my younger days… so I don’t do that stuff anymore… I do things that substitue only for the bar squats… my peak in ultimate power strength was in my 20’s, I’m now 46. I went dormant for 15 years from about 29 to 42… in between that time, my lower back had sustained a lot of trauma that now I have scar tisse and a slightly bowed discs. I’m not going to jeapordize my back. I work on things that strengthen it with lighter to medium weights, but I’m out of the solo squat business… I do single leg barbell lunges on a rack, deadlifts the whole shibang… I just posted 2 examples.
This is why I hate posting about weights and cycling performance, b/c neither the scientific community or the lay community know shit about this since each and every study contradicts each other… I have my own methodologies, it works for me. I just know this… when I started tri(s) 2.5 years ago… I came off the couch after about 8 years of lower physical activity. I had been very physically active from 15 to 30, like 5 to 6 x per week cross training. So, I feel that getting back some of the younger strength has improved my fitness and I have developed internal methods of correlating fitness across activities.
I’m 150lbs - 1 rep max leg press, just this past week a new pr 520lbs, and 5 x 450lbs, then moved to the hack squat machine and did 5 x 130lbs single leg hacks on each leg… the next day on my trainer I did 2 x 20’ at a new sustained wattage… this now equates to about a 335 FTP, my goal is this offseason is to get it up to 355 to 360 for 60’, or about 390 for 20’. My end of season FTP was 320… so with a focus in this offseason I’ve knocked it up 15 watts in the past 1.5 months.
I can’t squat large weights anymore since I have to be carefull with my back.
You just PR’d your squat but you can’t squat heavy weight anymore???
I’m glad I’m not the only one who saw that. Busted OP!