I just watched this video (streaming on Netflix). I like to drink milk once a day and purchase only grass fed, organic. I don’t want to get cancer. Should I stop drinking milk?
tricky to really figure those sorts of things out.
all foods contain compounds that are carcinogenic, even natural fair trade organic ones. even plants, even fresh organic fair trade plants.
does cow milk have a net increase in risk of cancer? hard to say. Casein proteins have a fair amount of evidence showing they are bad, but whey proteins may also have protective qualities. Milk has both. Now what?
Vegan propaganda flick. I would say that grass fed, raw, organic milk products are fine. Mass produced, heat pastueized, hormone injected, corn fed not so much. The cancer link is resting on the premise that everyone eats low quality preserved meats like hot dogs, not grass fed organic.
In that movie they would say drink soy or almond milk, but even if you just cut out MOST of the animal produced products (all meat, cheese, etc) and anything processed (oils) you are ahead of the game. Forks over Knives is really a vegan diet, but like I said, if you cut out as much as you can and eat much more plant based, you are way ahead of most of the population. I have been eating this way (I still eat things with oil and some cheese) and have seen a huge change in my health due to it.
Giraffe milk would be good for someone named Geoffrey.
Organic doesn’t equate to healthy. The requirements to use “organic” in labeling are not straightforward in a common sense view of “healthy food”. Nonetheless, it is probably better than non-organic. The history of milk is pretty interesting , with the Dairy Farmers of America marketing push and Federal Milk Marketing Orders supporting an un-economic industry. The studies regarding milk increasing a bodies acidity and the body countering that by taking calcium from the bones is something to think about as well. Drinking what was made to fatten a baby cow is kind of ignorant though, I think.
I kind of get the sense that the original post is sarcastic. Maybe not.
Giraffe milk would be good for someone named Geoffrey.
I do have a nice long neck. hmmmm
I kind of get the sense that the original post is sarcastic. Maybe not.
I’m not smart enough to be sarcastic. I have a 54 year milk habit that I am willing to break if there’s good reason. My health is fine. I don’t think I’ll ever have to worry about heart disease, so unless I get hit by a car, I’ll get cancer some day. I’m willing to be proactive to see that happen later than sooner.
Soy has often been linked to increased risk to certain forms of cancer.
And things don’t cause cancer. They increase the “risk” associated with certain forms of cancer.
Exercise, each a “balanced” diet, be nice and you may or may not get cancer. Be healthy and you increase you “odds” of beating many cancers.
Life is an odds game. But I find if you go too strong in one direction, it comes back to bite you. Like a long lived politician, stay to the middle.
Don’t give a shit. I have been drinking milk all my life and will continue to do so. I now only drink Skim milk and only have skinny Lattes but will continue to do so.
And, I can remember when you had to shake your milk before pouring to remix the cream. But then I remember milk “top hats” in the winter too.
Don’t give a shit. I have been drinking milk all my life and will continue to do so. I now only drink Skim milk and only have skinny Lattes but will continue to do so.
And, I can remember when you had to shake your milk before pouring to remix the cream. But then I remember milk “top hats” in the winter too.
Be sure to get your prostate checked often.
http://globocan.iarc.fr/factsheets/cancers/prostate.asp
http://www.cancerproject.org/survival/cancer_facts/prostate_dairy.php
men who avoid dairy products are at lower risk for prostate cancer incidence and mortality
Read the China Study…interestingly paleo and vegan are anti dairy.
I get a PSA done annually now.
We’re all gonna die! Ahhhhhhh! Please make it stop! Aaaaahhhhhhhh!
Oh, wait. You mean if I eat organic, vegan, fair trade, free range, grass fed, gluten free I’ll live forever? Awesome.
I’ll be in my yurt if you need me.
BTW, I’m sure the time you sit in front of your monitor watching Netflix causes more harm than milk.
Hello geoffreydean and All,
Disclaimer: I drink lots of non fat no Bst milk.
I generally eat like my folks ate - natural unprocessed foods many of which we grew -
and we had a Jersey cow that I had to milk every day. My mom died at 99 and drank lots
of raw milk (and cream) and was active to the end.
I don’t follow Mark’s diet - but I enjoy reading his take on food and seriously consider
what he has to say.
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Milk is baby fuel. It’s literally meant to spur growth and enable a growing body. Our bodies definitely recognize dairy as food, even foreign bovine dairy.
But is it good nutrition?
I don’t know.
I’m not sure anyone really does, in fact, which is why I place dairy firmly in Primal limbo. And so, this Definitive Guide to Dairy may come across as being a bit less than definitive, but that’s only because I’m being honest: we simply don’t know whether dairy is suitable for regular human consumption. Whether you include or exclude it from your diet, the decision must be borne from a review of the available literature (Cordain v. Weston Price, for example) with an assessment of the potential risks and benefits, followed by a personal assessment of dairy’s effect on your body (try it, then strictly eliminate it, and note the differences).
If you’ve been eating dairy your entire life, your body doesn’t know anything else. In that case, you’ll want to fully drop it for at least a month to get an accurate assessment. Remember – pre-Primal, you probably “felt fine” eating grains and sugar every day. You may have to take the same approach if you really want to figure out what dairy does to you.
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Read the China Study…interestingly paleo and vegan are anti dairy.
Of course vegan are anti dairy. they are anti anything to do with the use of animal products. And if I spent all my time reading every single study / “finding” about diet world wide, then I wouldn’t have time to eat.
I eat dairy and haven’t been sick in years. Go figure. I exercise and don’t gain weight.
Oh and come to Canada. No hormones or antibiotics in our meat or dairy!!
I haven’t watched the video but I did see in the trailer for it that former pro triathlete, Rip Esselstyn is in movie. His dad, who is the Dr. in the movie, is the developer of the diet. But I’m sure it is linked into Rip’s Engine 2 diet. I’ve always been a high fat high protein type but I could do without milk that’s for sure.
I eat dairy and haven’t been sick in years.
This is exactly the insightful information I was looking for. If you’ve been consuming dairy; it must be OK. Thanks!!!
Ditto.
I’m also from the mid west. Drank 3 gallons of milk a wek for about 60 years. Now I drink almond, soy, tomato juice and more water. Mostly vegetarian diet now. Organic is not a helpful term, IMHO. Too much cheating…