They’re not moving there yet but flagstaff is quietly becoming a pro tri training destination.
Being from Phoenix I’m kicking myself for not buying a place 3yrs ago up there. I go up 4-5x a summer if not more and I always love it.
They’re not moving there yet but flagstaff is quietly becoming a pro tri training destination.
Being from Phoenix I’m kicking myself for not buying a place 3yrs ago up there. I go up 4-5x a summer if not more and I always love it.
I live half the year in Flag and half in Phoenix. It is quite interesting there with all the professional athletes, especially runners. Seeing Molly Seidel running out on lake Mary rd all by herself is fun. See Lionel at the pool quite often. Such a nice guy. Real estate is getting very expensive for sure. Lots of great high end restaurants too. But quite easy to make a trip there given all the hotels. Gustav Iden was not incredibly fond of training there and prefers Sierra Nevada.
They’re not moving there yet but flagstaff is quietly becoming a pro tri training destination.
Being from Phoenix I’m kicking myself for not buying a place 3yrs ago up there. I go up 4-5x a summer if not more and I always love it.
How often do you go up there in the winter?
I’ll go skiing. Bring the dogs up ect. I don’t love winter but it’s not that bad.
I’ll go skiing. Bring the dogs up ect. I don’t love winter but it’s not that bad.
I think you got my point, Flagstaff doesn’t have the mildest of winters, certainly not as mild as Boulder. It would be a tough call for year round living, unless you’re a dedicated Zwifter. IMO.
As someone who lives here year round (since 2008) I’ll respectfully suggest that you don’t know what you’re talking about. The winters here are mild unless you’re a massive crybaby. It snows then melts/clears up very quickly, and there are only a few short windows (days) each winter where you are truly shut out of riding outside. At the same time, nobody moves here for the weather. We’re at 7000 feet and it’s like living in the Alps - it’s not a balmy easy San Diego climate. But I actually think the reason to not move here to train or live isn’t the weather - it’s the dry season wildfire threat. Bad and getting worse.
As someone who lives here year round (since 2008) I’ll respectfully suggest that you don’t know what you’re talking about. The winters here are mild unless you’re a massive crybaby. It snows then melts/clears up very quickly, and there are only a few short windows (days) each winter where you are truly shut out of riding outside. At the same time, nobody moves here for the weather. We’re at 7000 feet and it’s like living in the Alps - it’s not a balmy easy San Diego climate. But I actually think the reason to not move here to train or live isn’t the weather - it’s the dry season wildfire threat. Bad and getting worse.
My experiences with Flagstaff winters pre-date climate change, so maybe the winters are milder now. Someone should tell Wiki, They still make it sound pretty cold in the winter.
I’ll go skiing. Bring the dogs up ect. I don’t love winter but it’s not that bad.
I think you got my point, Flagstaff doesn’t have the mildest of winters, certainly not as mild as Boulder. It would be a tough call for year round living, unless you’re a dedicated Zwifter. IMO.
Winter in Flagstaff is pretty mild. A bit cold, but the volume of snow really isn’t much.
Also, came here to say: DON’T PHOENIX FLAG! Flagstaff has basically been Phoenixed and I hate it.
Sounds like boulder. Lol.
Too late. Secret’s out. Me and the wifey will be moving in 2 years once she graduates.
Is xc ski season there any good? We skied there years ago and it was great but got the sense they did not get reliable snow
They’re not moving there yet but flagstaff is quietly becoming a pro tri training destination.
Being from Phoenix I’m kicking myself for not buying a place 3yrs ago up there. I go up 4-5x a summer if not more and I always love it.
I live half the year in Flag and half in Phoenix. It is quite interesting there with all the professional athletes, especially runners. Seeing Molly Seidel running out on lake Mary rd all by herself is fun. See Lionel at the pool quite often. Such a nice guy. Real estate is getting very expensive for sure. Lots of great high end restaurants too. But quite easy to make a trip there given all the hotels. Gustav Iden was not incredibly fond of training there and prefers Sierra Nevada.
I was on holiday there about 20 years ago to do the trail in the grand canyon to the Colorado river (we ignored the warning signs to not do this in one day and indeed we got some water problems on the bottom side. I had to jog to go to a watersite during which I left my elderly hike-mate at the trail. In the end we arrived at the top again after 12 hours.)
Anyway, I did not see any triathletes 20 years ago in Flagstaff but saw at night some mooses wandering around through the town.
They’re not moving there yet but flagstaff is quietly becoming a pro tri training destination.
Being from Phoenix I’m kicking myself for not buying a place 3yrs ago up there. I go up 4-5x a summer if not more and I always love it.
I live half the year in Flag and half in Phoenix. It is quite interesting there with all the professional athletes, especially runners. Seeing Molly Seidel running out on lake Mary rd all by herself is fun. See Lionel at the pool quite often. Such a nice guy. Real estate is getting very expensive for sure. Lots of great high end restaurants too. But quite easy to make a trip there given all the hotels. Gustav Iden was not incredibly fond of training there and prefers Sierra Nevada.
I was on holiday there about 20 years ago to do the trail in the grand canyon to the Colorado river (we ignored the warning signs to not do this in one day and indeed we got some water problems on the bottom side. I had to jog to go to a watersite during which I left my elderly hike-mate at the trail. In the end we arrived at the top again after 12 hours.)
Anyway, I did not see any triathletes 20 years ago in Flagstaff but saw at night some mooses wandering around through the town.
maybe its only 19 years ago but simon whithfield and gang were there at least from 2003 the very latest 2004
They’re not moving there yet but flagstaff is quietly becoming a pro tri training destination.
Being from Phoenix I’m kicking myself for not buying a place 3yrs ago up there. I go up 4-5x a summer if not more and I always love it.
Tucson is really more the tri training destination of AZ. I’m not sure why triathletes would want to live in Flag, the road biking is just not that good.
They’re not moving there yet but flagstaff is quietly becoming a pro tri training destination.
Being from Phoenix I’m kicking myself for not buying a place 3yrs ago up there. I go up 4-5x a summer if not more and I always love it.
After listening to the latest Fast Talk, it seems Boulder is not really at an altitude that marks a benefit. What exactly has been the draw for endurance athletes to live there? I consider Flagstaff a legitimate training destination.
I agree with this. Road riding isn’t great. Gravel is good. MTB is so-so.
It’s been this way for years. We were seeing pro runners on Lake Mary road every weekend, and pro ITU triathletes would join us on the group rides. I understand they also have a world-class swimming facility, although I’ve never tried it.
There are a few problems with Flag as a training destination:
- Limited road biking - there are only a few roads that are good for riding any distance (but there are some really great local riders)
1a) As mentioned above, gravel and MTB are ok, although Sedona is right down the road and has world-class MTB - The winters can get very cold. Teens and low 20’s at night are not uncommon. It generally warms up later in the day, but that doesn’t make things more convenient (especially if you have to work). Also, you can find ice on the roads and trails at much higher temps in shady areas.
- It’s a small town. Luckily the college is there, so they have a good number of activities, concerts, etc. But it’s still a small town, with the closest big city being 2 hrs away.
- It’s expensive to live there. I don’t know if it’s because of the university or popularity with people from Phoenix and Tucson, but housing prices are high. Gas prices are higher too.
- It’s not conducive to traveling. The airport has carrier service, but it’s very limited and flights often get cancelled. It you have to travel, you’ll often need to drive 2 hours to Phoenix to catch a flight.
As a place to travel for a training camp or spend a summer for training, it’s great. I don’t know for sure, but in most college towns you can get summer accommodations pretty reasonably. Flag may be different because a lot of people like to go there in the summer. If you spend a summer there, you’ll have had the opportunity to ride and run every road and trail in the area, meet great people, and see some awesome scenery. I’d have a tough time living there in the winter (and most of the spring and fall), and I only live 45 minutes south. I prefer to train in the morning though.
They’re not moving there yet but flagstaff is quietly becoming a pro tri training destination.
Being from Phoenix I’m kicking myself for not buying a place 3yrs ago up there. I go up 4-5x a summer if not more and I always love it.
After listening to the latest Fast Talk, it seems Boulder is not really at an altitude that marks a benefit. What exactly has been the draw for endurance athletes to live there? I consider Flagstaff a legitimate training destination.
Much better road riding in Boulder than Flagstaff for one. Pools, gyms, open water etc. Not saying I’d want to live there (I did live there at one point) but it’s a training mecca for a good reason.
As someone who lives here year round (since 2008) I’ll respectfully suggest that you don’t know what you’re talking about. The winters here are mild unless you’re a massive crybaby. It snows then melts/clears up very quickly, and there are only a few short windows (days) each winter where you are truly shut out of riding outside. At the same time, nobody moves here for the weather. We’re at 7000 feet and it’s like living in the Alps - it’s not a balmy easy San Diego climate. But I actually think the reason to not move here to train or live isn’t the weather - it’s the dry season wildfire threat. Bad and getting worse.
My experiences with Flagstaff winters pre-date climate change, so maybe the winters are milder now. Someone should tell Wiki, They still make it sound pretty cold in the winter.
what are you thousands of years old ?
But I actually think the reason to not move here to train or live isn’t the weather - it’s the dry season wildfire threat. Bad and getting worse.
Pretty brutal earlier this summer for folks living on that section of 89A heading north toward Navajo Nation. Haven’t been watching too closely the last couple months. How have fires been up there recently?
Our winter home is in Sedona, and the Committee Fire has been a bit too close for comfort, but seems to be under control now.