Does anyone know the fastest overall time by a non-professional over the 70.3 half-ironman?
Would anyone have broken 4hrs as an age grouper?
Boris Stein did 3:58 at Austin 70.3
I’m sure that isn’t the fastest though
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Yes. Check Clearwater 2009.
Yes. Check Clearwater 2009.
I see Rodrigo Acevedo did 3:51:36 at Clearwater 2009, 1st Amateur, 30th overall. I thought I had remembered someone breaking 3:50 at 70.3 Norway this past summer but I was mistaken - Kyle Buckingham went 3:58 (4th overall, but of course a much shallower field) and an 18 year old named Florian Seifert went 3:59:57, 8th overall. The Norway course has a pretty hilly bike leg too.
I went 3:58:38 at steelhead this year.
Daniel Stubleski
Does anyone know the fastest overall time by a non-professional over the 70.3 half-ironman?
Would anyone have broken 4hrs as an age grouper?
Heck that was done in '94 at Gulf Coast by Tony DeBoom. During the awards ceremony people were saying ‘oh no there is another DeBoom crap!’. Hardly anyone knew of him, there was no ST, no innerwebs. He wasn’t flying under the radar after that.
Don’t think it’s still the fastest, but the sub 4 bar was set many moons ago.
My math may be off but pretty sure a 3:58 doesn’t beat a 3:51.
My math may be off but pretty sure a 3:58 doesn’t been a 3:51.
How about you look at the second question that the OP asked?
by the first question being answered it pretty much answered the second.
Would anyone have broken 4hrs as an age grouper?
I went 3:58 at the Welland Half Iron in Ontario this year. I plan to get my elite card next season.
There isn’t really a meaningful distinction between elite age group and lower-tier pro. Most of these guys work less than full time and center their lives around training/racing. Some just choose to apply for an elite license while others do not. In my case, not much will change when I go “pro”. I’m not quitting my day job!
Would anyone have broken 4hrs as an age grouper?
I went 3:58 at the Welland Half Iron in Ontario this year. I plan to get my elite card next season.
There isn’t really a meaningful distinction between elite age group and lower-tier pro. Most of these guys work less than full time and center their lives around training/racing. Some just choose to apply for an elite license while others do not. In my case, not much will change when I go “pro”. I’m not quitting my day job!
This. Conceptually, age group records don’t really work out, because the people that set them are sitting in the grey area between pro and amateur. Performance is a continuum–there is no point discontinuity.
I went 3:58:38 at steelhead this year.
Daniel Stubleski
^^^ You see that this guy is consistently one of the fastest “non-pros” and probably the fastest American long course amature. I wouldn’t even call him an amature. Rather a guy that chooses not file his paperwork for Elite Status.
If you don’t mind me asking Dan, have you ever run the numbers and seen is what you would have won in prize money at all your races and the savings from the single $750 entry fee? OTOH, it would put you into the KPR system for Kona. Though I can’t imagine you wouldn’t qualify. Instead he slums it in the amature ranks and bumps guys like me down one spot in my age group.
I went 3:58:38 at steelhead this year.
Daniel Stubleski
^^^ You see that this guy is consistently one of the fastest “non-pros” and probably the fastest American long course amature. I wouldn’t even call him an amature. Rather a guy that chooses not file his paperwork for Elite Status.
If you don’t mind me asking Dan, have you ever run the numbers and seen is what you would have won in prize money at all your races and the savings from the single $750 entry fee? OTOH, it would put you into the KPR system for Kona. Though I can’t imagine you wouldn’t qualify. Instead he slums it in the amature ranks and bumps guys like me down one spot in my age group.
Not bad for third year in the sport and having a wife and a couple of kids and then finishing 2nd in AG at Kona, narrowly missed taking down the now 3x AG champ in M35-39.
Hopefully Dan will chime in but I believe post Kona, he mentioned that he was going to be filing his paperwork for 2014.
As a working, family man he figures he might as well help offset the cost of equipment/racing by being eligible for prize money!
1st, 2nd Amateur in Vegas ('12/'13), 2nd AG in Kona! No doubt, the dude kills it!
I went 3:58:38 at steelhead this year.
Daniel Stubleski
^^^ You see that this guy is consistently one of the fastest “non-pros” and probably the fastest American long course amature. I wouldn’t even call him an amature. Rather a guy that chooses not file his paperwork for Elite Status.
If you don’t mind me asking Dan, have you ever run the numbers and seen is what you would have won in prize money at all your races and the savings from the single $750 entry fee? OTOH, it would put you into the KPR system for Kona. Though I can’t imagine you wouldn’t qualify. Instead he slums it in the amature ranks and bumps guys like me down one spot in my age group.
It is a lot cheaper to race pro but it is a different race, they are such good swimmers I would stuck out in no mans land. That is the problem, I’m stuck right in the middle not fast enough to be a good pro, but a good age grouper. I have the Kona bug, I want to go back loved that race. So I don’t know what I’m going to do yet.
by the first question being answered it pretty much answered the second.
Actually the second question leads to how many have done it but I’m sure you can find a way to let the slowest of the sub 4’s know that they aren’t as special to you.
Do the pros pay the same entry fee?
Do the pros pay the same entry fee?
Rarely. They’re usually comped free entries. For WTC events, they pay an annual fee of $750 for unlimited entries. Not sure what the WTC single event fee is.
Hi,
Not sure either but my son ran 3:57 in the Cotswold half last month snd he’s an age group amateur
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4 male AG athletes went sub 4 at the Turkey70.3 at the start of the month. Very fast course. The most elevation on the bike is the ramp up to a bridge…
i know the guy who came second with a 3:55, he’s an anmial. He went 4:01 at Talinn 70.3 as well