That is nuts. A buddy is a soigneur for a pro cycling team, he messaged me that he saw over the counter EPO at a drug store in Mexico? Wow, i never thought that that crap was so accessible.
Must be a market there as well. How many North AMerican athletes are willing to make a trip to get it?
Must be a market there as well. How many North AMerican athletes are willing to make a trip to get it?
Take a trip? Ever heard of FedEx? 
Ken
it may or may not truly be EPO, particularly if it is not an IV solution (EPO is intravenous). Mexico is a large producer of fraudulent pharmaceuticals.
Why is that surprising? The US has some of the most restrictive drug laws in the world, yet if you get sick from one of their FDA “approved” drugs, you can’t hold the government liable.
There are many places where a whole lot more freedom exists than in the country best known for it.
Regardless, as much as I’d like to, EPO is not a drug I’m willing to mess with.
I once got samples of EPO, Evening Primrose Oil. Didn’t do much for me.
Heh heh. No he knew what he was looking at.
I too agree that there is a large amount of fraugulent drugs there.
That brings to point, who would trust it?
I"m sure you could easily get aranesp down there also, it doesn’t have to be an IV, just a quick shot, Very common for cancer pt’s that are anemic
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Heh heh. No he knew what he was looking at.
I too agree that there is a large amount of fraugulent drugs there.
That brings to point, who would trust it?
No wonder you qualified for clearwater 
Well, did you see who was in the top ten in the Vuelta a Chihuahua that just finished? There’s no testing in Mexico; from what I hear half the riders are vibrating from how hopped up they are…
Well, did you see who was in the top ten in the Vuelta a Chihuahua that just finished? There’s no testing in Mexico; from what I hear half the riders are vibrating from how hopped up they are…
Wrong there. There is testing in Mexico and some riders have paid the consecuences. They do not tell the press but suddenly you hear someone was caught and then you do not see him racing anymore. There is a very high tech anti doping lab running in Mexico (see note with pics here: http://www.record.com.mx/...tos.html?galeria=865 ) and I have seen some of the riders above Junior Cat. being scorted for the test in some of the track events my kid has raced.
I do not know if EPO is readily available in Mexico because I have not even thought on looking for it. What I have heard is that it is not readily available and that its very expensive. I do think that a percentage of riders are in illegal substances but it is apparently not as bad yet as in other countries. I can not guarantee this but that is what I feel.
Goint back to the original question…My guess is that EPO in Mexico should be not harder to get than steroids in the USA.
Sergio
Everything is over the counter in Mexico. From every drug imaginable to pre-pubescent prostitutes. It’s a pretty disgusting and corrupt place.
Everything is over the counter in Mexico. From every drug imaginable to pre-pubescent prostitutes. It’s a pretty disgusting and corrupt place.
Dave Attell once said on his classic show “Insomnia”: in America, you see a doctor. In Tijuana, you ARE the doctor!
Nah, going on Ryan’s coat tails. Leading the blind! (insert clever witty comment!)
Should be fun though. We get to start in the pro wave. Hope to beat a couple of the women out anyways. :>
“There is testing in Mexico and some riders have paid the consequences.”
Wrong, we all know the Mexican riders are all hopped up on Camarones ceviche and Governors tacos. It’s not fair and they should be banned from the sport.
Dave
Everything is over the counter in Mexico. From every drug imaginable to pre-pubescent prostitutes. It’s a pretty disgusting and corrupt place.
And where exactly in México did you experience that?
Sergio
Wow - between that and the OTC boner pills you could have a seriously “all-inclusive” vacation.
“There is testing in Mexico and some riders have paid the consequences.”
Wrong, we all know the Mexican riders are all hopped up on Camarones ceviche and Governors tacos. It’s not fair and they should be banned from the sport.
Dave
Something tells me you have seen more than the border towns of Mexico Dave. 
Sergio
“Something tells me you have seen more than the border towns of Mexico Dave. :)”
I need to get back to your town soon, its been too long my friend. Hopefully before the end of the year.
Dave
Well, did you see who was in the top ten in the Vuelta a Chihuahua that just finished? There’s no testing in Mexico; from what I hear half the riders are vibrating from how hopped up they are…
Wrong there. There is testing in Mexico and some riders have paid the consecuences. They do not tell the press but suddenly you hear someone was caught and then you do not see him racing anymore. There is a very high tech anti doping lab running in Mexico (see note with pics here: http://www.record.com.mx/...tos.html?galeria=865 ) and I have seen some of the riders above Junior Cat. being scorted for the test in some of the track events my kid has raced.
I do not know if EPO is readily available in Mexico because I have not even thought on looking for it. What I have heard is that it is not readily available and that its very expensive. I do think that a percentage of riders are in illegal substances but it is apparently not as bad yet as in other countries. I can not guarantee this but that is what I feel.
Goint back to the original question…My guess is that EPO in Mexico should be not harder to get than steroids in the USA.
Sergio
Sergio,
Thanks for the insights and clarification: I have a buddy who’s ridden on multiple Conti-Pro teams and has always said that as soon as a lot of riders cross the Mexican border they start boosting because of the lax testing. I’m just concerned that the Rasmussen’s and the Rock Racings of the world use this race as a way to beat up on everyone.
I can tell you that medications available only via prescription are available in Mexico OTC.
To make a long story short: I drove to mexico to buy Valley Fever medication for
my dog for a LOT less than I could buy them here.
That’s my story, and I’m sticking to it. Oh, and my race results back it up.
-Jot