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I’ve loved my FORM goggles for swimming and would consider giving the Engo glasses a spin considering their 30 day risk free trial. Couple of questions to inform that consideration:

What is the impact to battery life of the connected device? My FORM goggles seem to drain my watch fairly deeply, curious what incremental drain Engo puts in garmin devices.

What Garmin metrics do/don’t populate on Engo?

Will SMS messages display from Edge devices?

Will LTE messages display from forerunner 945 LTE?

Is it 1 static screen or does it scroll through various screens?

Can you move the display within the field of view, say more nasel or more temporal?

Thanks

Good questions.

1.) No impact, for me, on battery life. YMMV.
2.) Garmin metrics availability is based on device, but the full FAQ is here: https://us.engoeyewear.com/pages/faq#3a3e1502-bf61-4231-8ee1-8c695fe11329
3.) No SMS / LTE / Radar, etc. alerts.
4.) You can “swipe” through your three screens by waving in front of the glass.
5.) Yes! You can do that through set up.

Hi,

I typed a long message here only for my browser to crash on submission. So quick reply this time.

Currently on my 3rd pair. I can’t recommend them at this point. Which is a shame as I love the idea of them.

Please try them, as it’s a great tech demo.

But Bottom line: They are not sweat proof.

1st pair started to randomly restart all the time
2nd pair was sent back, only to be told humidity got in the electronics. (This was after only 2-3 runs)
3rd pair I’m scared to use for proper training sessions.

Great idea, good execution and designs, but let down by build quality.

Good questions.

1.) No impact, for me, on battery life. YMMV.
2.) Garmin metrics availability is based on device, but the full FAQ is here: https://us.engoeyewear.com/...31-8ee1-8c695fe11329
3.) No SMS / LTE / Radar, etc. alerts.
4.) You can “swipe” through your three screens by waving in front of the glass.
5.) Yes! You can do that through set up.

Varia radar support would make these worthwhile for me - particularly where I live, the car frequency is so high that it’s super annoying to leave the audio alerts enabled.

If they did that, it’d make these a no-brainer purchase, IMO.

Some of that, though, is on Garmin to allow it to happen; remember, the Engo’s are just a display for whatever a head unit allows to send outbound to it.

Suunto watches have also been compatible with Engo (and other Activelook technology) products since december 2022. Shows turn by turn info, heartrate, speed, power, pace…

https://www.suunto.com/fi-fi/sports/News-Articles-container-page/learn-how-augmented-reality-can-empower-your-performance-now/

Did you ever try them under a visor ?

With most of the best race helmets being visor based I am wondering if they would work.

Some of that, though, is on Garmin to allow it to happen; remember, the Engo’s are just a display for whatever a head unit allows to send outbound to it.

The Engo has Bluetooth Smart. Varia Radar has Bluetooth Smart with an open protocol for the data.

On paper, participation by Garmin is not necessary. It is Engo’s choice to go through the head unit for everything.

Against my better judgement - I’ve opened the sealed 3rd pair today as I’ve not had any movement on the marketplace ad for them so ‘what the hell’ lets use them.

Not charging…

Going to leave them on the charger to see if they come to life after a few hours but it appears my original statement stands…

Some of that, though, is on Garmin to allow it to happen; remember, the Engo’s are just a display for whatever a head unit allows to send outbound to it.

The Engo has Bluetooth Smart. Varia Radar has Bluetooth Smart with an open protocol for the data.

On paper, participation by Garmin is not necessary. It is Engo’s choice to go through the head unit for everything.

I got in touch with their support team and got documentation to all their SDK/API…

It seems pretty well done.

I got confirmation from one of their guys that IF garmin support Varia in Datafields (which it does), you could display it in the glasses by writing some code.

Seems strange they didn’t do this, but whatever.

Now the question is do I plop down $300 to play with more tech.

Or if Ryan sends me his, I’ll do it for him and send them back :slight_smile: I want Ryan to be safe.

Hi,
I’ve looked on their site but haven’t seen any links for developers / SDKs. Can you share a link? I’ve been on the fence about getting one but if I can do an app or two for it (I’ve done some for the Garmin HMD) then that would be a fun thing to play with.

Chris

Hi,
I’ve looked on their site but haven’t seen any links for developers / SDKs. Can you share a link? I’ve been on the fence about getting one but if I can do an app or two for it (I’ve done some for the Garmin HMD) then that would be a fun thing to play with.

Chris

Have fun :slight_smile: https://www.activelook.net/pages/for-developers

We have looking at some open source aero stuff coming up if ever you are interested

Thanks for the link . As I have the summer off (I “retired” from decades of doing AR/VR/3D stuff at Boeing last summer to a full-time CS faculty job) I’m looking for stuff to do this summer besides train for races. If you’ve got some open source aero stuff, I’d be interested.ri

Chris