Feel free to post any evidence. Regardless, the problem isn’t whether he is guilty or innocent, because we don’t know, the problem is…THERE WAS NO DUE PROCESS!!
And no, a statement by Noem on the Homeland Security website is not evidence.
This is not true. There was no finding by the courts that he was an MS-13 member.
The facts behind Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia’s deportation - Poynter
“A decision to deny bond is not equivalent to finding that Abrego Garcia was a gang member.”
Abrego Garcia later received an immigration protection called withholding of removal. Granting that protection required the Department of Homeland Security to decide Abrego Garcia was not “a danger to the security of the United States,”
If illegally deporting Garcia was the right thing why does the Trump administration have to lie so much about it?
Actually, he is the living reincarnation of Elvis Presley. A statement which, just like your post, is supported by zero evidence.
the same couple of posters who are arguing with you here and accusing the Trump admin of lying were posting here a year ago about how Trump had killed the legislation that was absolutely necessary to secure the border.
I am sure when they were making this argument a year ago they were just as sure of themselves as the argument they are making now. Because it was mostly just in defense of a party over a country then as it is now.
And I am sure they were not lying when they argued that. They were just actually stupid enough to believe it was true.
not one of them feels the need to acknowledge how full of shit their argument on this subject a year ago was.
I don’t see how they were wrong. Trump stonewalled the bipartisan immigration changes for political gain. Even if he has now stopped the flow at the border it doesn’t change that original motivating move.
Everything he does is for his own benefit. He flip flops if nonstop. Like mail in ballots - hated them until he was shown that might hurt him and then he loved them.
Pam Bondi wouldn’t lie, would she? So you must be saying that every MS13 gang banger that was recently deported should have had “due process”?
Attorney General Pam Bondi: “In 2019, two courts, an immigration court and an appellate immigration court, ruled that (Abrego Garcia) was a member of MS-13.”
Yes, she has a long history of promoting misinformation.
Pam Bondi mastered the art of pretending everything Trump does is OK.
Pam Bondi, a $25,000 Donation and Trump University: Questions Remain - The New York Times
If two courts had indeed “ruled” that Garcia was a member of MS-13 it would be easy for you to provide these rulings…but they didn’t, so you cannot.
Sorry, but I’m more concerned about the thousands of Rachel Morins than a guy who illegally entered our country, beat up his “wife” twice, and was picked up wearing a MS13 sweatshirt and was with two other MS13 gangbangers. I guess we have different priorities.
Odd how you keep repeating this lie. He was wearing a Chicago Bulls sweatshirt, and it wasn’t “recently” it was 6 years ago.
The facts are clear. The courts examined the claims of the cop, who was fired for misconduct, and did not believe them. The court granted Garcia “withholding of removal” to El Salvador due to his “well-founded fear of future persecution”. The court found that that Garcia was telling the truth
[T]he Respondent provided credible responses to the questions asked. His testimony was internally consistent, externally consistent with his asylum application and other documents, and appeared free of embellishment. Further, he provided substantial documentation buttressing his claims. Included in this evidence were several affidavits from family members. … The court finds the Respondent credible.
gov.uscourts.mdd.578815.1.1_3.pdf
If you read the finding by the court you will see that it goes into detail about how his family was harassed by gangs and repeatedly forced to flee.
Abrego Garcia and MS-13: What Do We Know? | Lawfare
The facts are clear, the Trump administration illegally deported Garcia. You are trying to deflect from this fact by posting lies and deflection
I love your repeated use of “MS-13 sweatshirt”, like he bought it at the MS-13 gift shop when he went to their amusement park.
ETA - have you heard of the “terrorist fist-bump”? It’s VERY scary as well.
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Is domestic violence a big deal or something that qualifies you to be a trump cabinet member?
Just real hard to keep things straight.
It’s hard to keep up. So he was deported for domestic violence, and not for being a member of MS 13? Why didn’t the govt say that at the outset instead of all this faffing about with administrative errors etc?
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Yes. If they were here legally they should all get due process.
If they are really criminals then it shouldn’t be too hard to prove that.
Please read the post I was responding to
“Odd how you keep repeating this lie. He was wearing a Chicago Bulls sweatshirt, and it wasn’t “recently” it was 6 years ago.”
Not referring to this sweatshirt. Guess you missed today’s press conference. You might want to catch up.
The Narcissist’s Prayer
That didn’t happen.
And if it did, it wasn’t that bad.
And if it was, that’s not a big deal.
And if it is, that’s not my fault.
And if it was, I didn’t mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.
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Please inform us of what bullshit they spewed today.
I did. Guess my point was too subtle. I don’t see the value in arguing about points irrelevant to the matter at hand. He was deported without any due process due to an ‘administrative error’. Now govt is trying to justify this any way they can, all of which is irrelevant as they: 1) admitted it was a mistake; and, 2) didn’t follow due process.
I know you don’t.
Does it bother you that he has now stopped the flow at the border?
Did he do this for his own benefit?
When the previous admin told you the border was secure and that they had done everything they could to stop the flow without legislation did you believe them? Were they telling the truth?