My simple solution is that if people go to Syria or Pakistan or other places and they are known to fight for an extremist group, simply cancel their passport when they are out of the country.
Agree, but you make that sound easy. It’s not. Extremist groups don’t have easy-to-find membership rolls.
Because it’s so hard is part of the reason why we have the Trump administration throwing up its hands and saying, “If you’re from that country at all, we’re cancelling your passport.”
Though I think in the U.S. the larger problem is homegrown terrorists. People who never went to Syria or Pakistan. Though I play libral here, however, I’m not totally opposed to “extreme vetting,” as long as its not confused with racism or religious persecution. The danger is real. I think the latest directive from the White House is fairly on-point, though it took them a long time to get there.
**Except that is against international law. You can’t make someone stateless **
But when the law was written, my bet is you didn’t have people going over there to be radicalized with the goal of returning to their home country and kill people.
After 9/11, lots of people were willing to change the laws and expand the powers of authorities even if it meant infringing on their personal freedoms. Not sure why something like this couldn’t be done when you’re simply stopping people with a stated intention of killing your citizens.
Yeah, that’s where things get difficult. People who sympathize with ISIS yet haven’t broken any laws. He was reported but really, what could the police do.
Two months later, on Sept. 22, 2011, an immigration judge ordered Sharif removed to Somalia. Sharif waived his right to appeal that decision.
But Sharif was released on Nov. 23, 2011, on an ICE order of supervision, “due to a lack of likelihood of his removal in the reasonably foreseeable future,” Elzea said in a statement to CBC News.
Historically it’s really hard to deport people to Somalia. The receiver country is supposed issue a passport or travel document. Lots of countries will claim there is no proof that the person is a citizen of their country. The lack of a fully functioning government in Somalia is another barrier. Only recently Somalis have started to be deported and mostly for criminal issues.
Two months later, on Sept. 22, 2011, an immigration judge ordered Sharif removed to Somalia. Sharif waived his right to appeal that decision.
But Sharif was released on Nov. 23, 2011, on an ICE order of supervision, “due to a lack of likelihood of his removal in the reasonably foreseeable future,” Elzea said in a statement to CBC News.
I read a similar article here and was confused. The article states he had no criminal history so why did the immigration judge order him removed to Somalia in the first place?
Then the next question is how can someone released under an order of supervision, just disappear?
Finally, how can someone ordered back to Somalia and who escaped an order of supervision manage to enter Canada as a refugee without any questions? How can someone enter Canada from the U.S as a refugee from Somalia, and not have that raise eyebrows?
The article states he had no criminal history so why did the immigration judge order him removed to Somalia in the first place?
Not authorized to be here, I guess. And/or they had reason to suspect he had terrorist connections.
Then the next question is how can someone released under an order of supervision, just disappear?
Ha. No, the question is how they expected him not to disappear.
Finally, how can someone ordered back to Somalia and who escaped an order of supervision manage to enter Canada as a refugee without any questions?
I don’t know if they asked him any questions or not, but I’m under the impression that it’s fairly common for refugees to travel from the US to Canada- I assume it’s often refugees the US won’t recognize as such, but Canada will.