Does pedal weight matter?

When buying new pedals, I spent the extra money for the top end carbon pedals but I felt like it was worth it only for the coolness factor but very little practical value.

Since the pedal weight is essentially self canceling I.e. one is going down as the other is coming up… Is there really any benefit other than lowering the overall weight of the bike?

The money is already spent so I’m not changing my mind here, but what was it really worth? What am I missing… Do they come with better bearings as well as lighter weight?

Brand = Shimano (I think, ordered them before Christmas and been really busy since then but either way they are 1 of the typical brands)

Yes, pedal weight is worth it. It’s not really a zero-sum operation, because there are always losses in any system, so you will always pay some price for lifting a heavier object that you won’t get returned on the way down.

There have been some demonstrations that have shown that pedal weight is one of the few places where weight actually makes a really meaningful difference, even much more than wheels, but I haven’t seen enough of the data underpinning them to call them “studies” or to attest to their validity.

But certainly, there is no downside to a lighter pedal (which CAN include other upgrades as well), and there MAY be really meaningful benefits (on the order of magnitude of a few watts).

Pedal weight, like most rotating mass, gets played up as being really important, but it’s important to remember that unlike with wheels, the aerodynamics of a pedal don’t change much with weight; it’s not like a shallow section climbing wheel vs. a deep section aero wheel where aero way trumps weight. In this case, it’s ONLY weight.

I’m a weight wheenie … all weight makes a difference. Even knocking 40 grams off of my stem. :wink:

Pedal weight matters just as much as other weight on the bike (increases rolling resistance, and has to be lugged up hills). That being said, aero trumps weight (you can go to analyticcycling and see the impact on a 40k TT of adding a couple hundred grams…not much).

In addition to the weight of the pedals, there is the energy that must be used to accelerate them around the bottom bracket. Pedals are so close to the axis of rotation (compared to a 700c rim rotating around a hub) and spin at such a slow rate (70-90rpm) that this is negligible.

i would say no, it doesn’t matter in the same way that malaria matters, or having a good relationship with your family matters.

but carbon pedals sure are sweet!

-mike

Yes, pedal weight is worth it. It’s not really a zero-sum operation, because there are always losses in any system, so you will always pay some price for lifting a heavier object that you won’t get returned on the way down.

There have been some demonstrations that have shown that pedal weight is one of the few places where weight actually makes a really meaningful difference, even much more than wheels, but I haven’t seen enough of the data underpinning them to call them “studies” or to attest to their validity.

But certainly, there is no downside to a lighter pedal (which CAN include other upgrades as well), and there MAY be really meaningful benefits (on the order of magnitude of a few watts).

Pedal weight, like most rotating mass, gets played up as being really important, but it’s important to remember that unlike with wheels, the aerodynamics of a pedal don’t change much with weight; it’s not like a shallow section climbing wheel vs. a deep section aero wheel where aero way trumps weight. In this case, it’s ONLY weight.

There might be a savings of a few watts by switching to a more aerodynamic cleat/pedal (ref: http://www.speedplay.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.slipperypedals), but it’s hard to see how reduction of such a small amount of mass alone could get several watts of savings.

The increase in rotational inertia is only an issue during accel/decel, and then only when there is desired deceleration (ex. stopping pedaling ahead of a sharp corner). The energy savings from faster reaccel of angular velocity is so small and intermittent, the average is <<1W. The “it’s rotating weight” concept doesn’t seem to have much actual impact.

That all being said, pedals are not a bad place to shave weight from a bike from a $/g perspective (until you get to extremes like the uber-expensive Speedplay Nanogram pedals), coupled with the fact that you rarely give up functionality in pedal s when shaving weight.