Given the question about whether people feel sad that some Cervelo frames are made in China (which I guess by and large people are not, not so strange given that homegrown production is not what makes us special), how about a brand that was all about Made in Italy?
Bless you.
I’m happy about it since almost everything we’ve seen come out of China in the bike industry- regardless of manufacturer- has been reasonably well made.
The design and engineering are up to the bike brand, the manufacturing may best be done by someone who specializes in… manufacturing.
Agreed, but I think Gerard is pointing out that, while Cervelo doesn’t hide where their frames are manufactured, Pinarello is, perhaps, not so clear about their products.
Want a cheaper Pinarello? The Intense Fenix is essentially the same thing.
NO, SAY IT IS NOT SO! I would never by a Pinarello anyways.
Do not care and still do not care if my Cervelo was made in Canada, China or on the moon. I bought my Cervelo first for the fit and second because I believe in the brand and their designs.
no thanks, i’d rather pay less for the same thing than pay more so the sticker has a different country’s name!
besides, think about how many people in China ride bikes vs America…perhaps they know what they’re doing?!
The moon, now that’s an idea. I am sure there are some advantages to that.
You must be mistaken. Pinarellos are made (a better word would be “crafted”) lovingly by hand in a small village in the Tuscan hills by the brothers Fausto and Andiamo Pinarello. Their grandfather, the revered Benevuto Pinarello, still rolls the tubing in his rocking chair, constantly criticizing the brothers and their modern ways.
The youngest member of the operation is of course their young neice Pompelma Pinarello, who at the tender age of three and a half makes all the forks out of carbon fiber. She uses, of course, the old family recipe for curing the carbon, and is still learning to color inside the lines, which is why the forks are so squiggly the past few seasons.
In a similar vein, Colnagos are traditionally (finger) painted by the current youngest member of the Colnago family, which explains a lot.
Hope this helps.
I guess people should stop sticking their gels and power/cliff bars to the top tube. They could get lead poisoning.
I heard (perhaps on this very forum) that all “Made in Italy” meant was some Italian put a decal on and gave it a spit shine. The product could have actually been made just about anywhere.
Are we talking a Prince, or an “entry level” model?
Brett
For starters, with the reduced gravity environment of the moon, you could make “truer” bearings with respect to coming up with the perfect sperical shape.
Dev
This subject puzzles me really. I am amazed that people obsess so much about maybe the most insignificant part of the bicycle (the frame). The folks who are concerned about where a bike is “made” are fooling themselves because even if the “parts hanger” (frame) is made in Italy, the rest certainly is not. So, if 90% of the bike’s parts (except for the frame) are made somewhere else, can we say that the bike was “made in the USA/Italy etc…”? It is probably more important to talk about where the bike was designed, rather than where it was made. And…even that is becoming less important. The world is flat…
Mike
Given the question about whether people feel sad that some Cervelo frames are made in China (which I guess by and large people are not, not so strange given that homegrown production is not what makes us special), how about a brand that was all about Made in Italy?
yes i feel sad about it
because now the brand is only marketing ,and making bike’s as you know is more the just glue evrything together with out any feeling for the product
as what i only have seen in china
well money rule’s the world …
and for some that the only thing that counts it’s sad…people think only on this
<< You must be mistaken. Pinarellos are made (a better word would be “crafted”) lovingly by hand in a small village in the Tuscan hills by the brothers Fausto and Andiamo Pinarello. Their grandfather, the revered Benevuto Pinarello, still rolls the tubing in his rocking chair, constantly criticizing the brothers and their modern ways.
The youngest member of the operation is of course their young neice Pompelma Pinarello, who at the tender age of three and a half makes all the forks out of carbon fiber. She uses, of course, the old family recipe for curing the carbon, and is still learning to color inside the lines, which is why the forks are so squiggly the past few seasons.
In a similar vein, Colnagos are traditionally (finger) painted by the current youngest member of the Colnago family, which explains a lot.
Hope this helps.>>
That was some funny sh1t! Thanks for making my morning.
Brett
well money rule’s the world …
and for some that the only thing that counts it’s sad…people think only on this
I agree! Will you give me some ADA wheels for free?
No, I’m not sad that they’re made in China. I’m sad that the MSRP is still too high.
Good point. I figure pretty much everything is made there now.
Yes. I also recall some aphorism about stones and glass houses . . .
The moon, now that’s an idea. I am sure there are some advantages to that.
Keep making your frames any lighter and you might need to move production up there
Just make to spec some Camillus ZeroG brakes with that new Soloist SSC SL Ultra
LOL!
No need to be sad at all, and of course no one should be sad where Cervelos are made.