Have about 600 miles on Stinson tarmacs. Upper is holding up and the soles have some have wear on the medial side but I think some shoe goo to it might be in order.
Lately I’ve been getting those knee aches after 10-12 mile runs that I usually get when I’m running on regular shoes that need to be retired. But it’s hard to tell if the aches are from lack of cushioning or if I’ve just been pushing my training to much.
Anyone have experience on how the cushioning holds up after 500+ miles? I could probably get a lot more miles out of it and don’t want to replace them if I don’t need to.
Have about 600 miles on Stinson tarmacs. Upper is holding up and the soles have some have wear on the medial side but I think some shoe goo to it might be in order.
Lately I’ve been getting those knee aches after 10-12 mile runs that I usually get when I’m running on regular shoes that need to be retired. But it’s hard to tell if the aches are from lack of cushioning or if I’ve just been pushing my training to much.
Anyone have experience on how the cushioning holds up after 500+
miles? I could probably get a lot more miles out of it and don’t want to replace them if I don’t need to.
Pretty much any shoe is going to break down after 500-600 miles unless you are 125 lbs and have perfect form… I get about 500 miles out of my Tarmacs. In my case, the outside heel wears down after 200-300 miles but i just leave it: i figure that extra material was just acting as a brake. if you are getting sore earlier than normal i would say the shoe need to be replaced- Hokas make great walking shoes once their running life is over…
Have either of you worn through the sole? My right shoe in the rear corner has exposed cushioning. All the way through the sole, about dime size. approximately 400 miles on them.
I always thought the rule of thumb was about 500 miles a pair. They may look normal after that few miles but the soles do lose some of the shock protection after 500 miles or so. Not bad if you run twenty miles a week. Gets expensive if you run 80 miles a week.
I always thought the rule of thumb was about 500 miles a pair. They may look normal after that few miles but the soles do lose some of the shock protection after 500 miles or so. Not bad if you run twenty miles a week. Gets expensive if you run 80 miles a week.
I get about 400 miles out of a typical pair of shoes (Lately it’s been in the Saucony family) at 170 lbs.
Here is a pic of the sole. Actually it was the left foot. My running consist of 95% paved trails and 5% loose gravel.
Just means that you tend to touch and scuff the outside of the heel first, and then roll across the rest of your foot. I’m guessing that you run fairly close to the ground without a lot of lift/bounce.
I’m around 130lb these days but I lost about 10lbs over the summer. I read about people than can get over 1000 miles in them. I was expecting that at over $150 a pair, I could justify the price by thinking I could get the mileage of 2 normal shoes. I was thinking of trying the bondi for my next pair but I read those wear even faster.
Anyway, it seems that as long as the foam midsole stays intact then you should still be able to get the extra cushioning of all that foam. I don’t see why it would lose its cushioning characteristics.
As far as sole wear, the foam midsole appears to be breaking up in small bits and pieces causing it to separate from the outer sole. I had a large piece break off on the back heal but it doesn’t sees to effect my running.
I have had a few pairs of Bondi Bs over the last 3 years and have three observations:
Running off road means that the carbon rubber on the soles wears very quickly - After about 300-400 miles, there are enough bare patches that they noticeably effect the foot plant.
The amount of cushioning is very temperature dependent - I can do long runs every day on them in the summer; in the winter (Canadian winter mind you), 90% of the benefits over other shoes disappear.
For the spring, summer, and fall, I have never trained on better shoes. They are worth every penny.
Mine look almost exactly the same. I’m at about 300 miles on the current pair.
I rotate with a Bondi B2, however that upper starts to separate on me after about 100 miles. I’m currently on my second replacement pair and I’ve been told a new model in early 2014 should fix that issue.
I started out with Stinson Tarmacs as “recovery run” shoes but quickly found out that they were much more forgiving during my attempt at ramping up my running again so started using them exclusively. I have about 350 miles on them and picked up a pair of Bondi Speed to alternate. While at the store, I tried on a new set of Stinson Tarmacs and was amazed at how much cushier they felt than my current pair which tells me I’ve worn down the first pair. I’ll likely try and get a little more use out of them but I think the likelihood of getting another 150 miles out of them is small for me. The uppers and soles looks fine, though.
What I found with the Speed is that he upper feels rougher so I need to wear thicker socks and although they do feel more responsive, they are consideraby less cushy. I’ll probably continue to do all my long runs in the Stinson Tarmacs.
What I found with the Speed is that he upper feels rougher so I need to wear thicker socks and although they do feel more responsive, they are consideraby less cushy. I’ll probably continue to do all my long runs in the Stinson Tarmacs.
That’s strange that you find the bondi more responsive. I emailed a rep about them because I had the same question and was told that the tarmacs are more responsive than than the bondi but less cushy.
Are they as large as the tarmacs? I like the cushioning of them but they do look enormous withmy skinny legs.
Nope, Tarmacs feel like I jumped into a foam pit, cush, but less responsive than the Bondi Speed which has significantly less cushioning but I can change direction much quicker (which is what I mean by responsive). The Bondi also feel much more stable to me than the Tarmac on the limestone trail path. It looks a little smaller than the Tarmac.
I get about 500 miles out of my Tarmacs. In my case, the outside heel wears down after 200-300 miles but i just leave it: i figure that extra material was just acting as a brake. if you are getting sore earlier than normal i would say the shoe need to be replaced- Hokas make great walking shoes once their running life is over…