Somewhere I read his FTP was 508 watts? I thought it was the PTO Eurpoean Open Thread, but can’t find it.
I’d love to listen to the podcast from which he discusses his FTP. I couldn’t believe it when I read it.
Jack from HTT either mentioned during a pod or posted it on IG that his coach said his last 20 min test was 508.
That puts his estimated FTP somewhere around 480W, and according to this PTO profile he weighs 79 Kg… that’s 6.1 W/Kg
Wow. That is top pro cyclist level. He is hands down the strongest cyclists in triathlon but 508 W over 20 minutes is Ganna-ish levels.
Yeah don’t think Long can claim strongest legs in triathlon anymore….
Wow. That is top pro cyclist level. He is hands down the strongest cyclists in triathlon but 508 W over 20 minutes is Ganna-ish levels.
Would be really interesting to see him go toe to toe with the pros on a longer TT, can’t be too far off from top level.
Makes me wonder if Blu’s strategy was to draft Ditlev. He and Gustav did it in Kona as well.
Ditlev didn’t seem to happy he towed Blu to the front.
Ditlev’s numbers are insane. It seems the Norwegian Method may have a new meaning. After all, they know their science.
Wow. That is top pro cyclist level. He is hands down the strongest cyclists in triathlon but 508 W over 20 minutes is Ganna-ish levels. Probably higher than Ganna, and he is also lighter! On a W/kg basis it would be much closer to Evanepoel and Pogacar who are probably in the 6.1-6.3 range!
That puts his estimated FTP somewhere around 480W, and according to this PTO profile he weighs 79 Kg… that’s 6.1 W/Kg
I really don’t believe those numbers. That FTP would put him well over Bradley Wiggins on his world hour record. He’d be even close to Miguel Indurain, who is supposed to have had the highest FTP ever and that was in a cycling period in which weight wasn’t as determinant.
W/kg is not the only limitation. A 100kg cyclist would never get to 600w on a 6w/kg because physiologically there is a limitation in how much power a human can produce in an hour. Doctors and specialists say anything over 450-480w could be a sign of doping (as seen in the 90s and early 2000s).
If that FTP were true, his error would be to make a living being a triathlete. He’d be earning 10 or 20 times more towing the peloton. And maybe even having a crack at major TTs
Yeah, I think you might be correct.
One of triathlon’s best cyclists (Sanders) went 51 kph on the track while a not-in-great-shape Ganna went 56 kph. I reckon Ditlev is a stronger cyclist than Sanders. His position is not as aero as Ganna, but it is still somewhat similar to a rider like Rohan Dennis. With those numbers, he should be closer to Ganna’s speeds than Sanders, and I just don’t see it. Yeah, I know it’s on the track, but I chose the example as it is the only place to compare somewhat apples to apples.
Often wondered how Ditlev would stack up in pro cycling (same goes for Taylor Knibb) seeing how they’re levels ahead of other strong cyclists in triathlon. Surely they must be better than plenty of mid to lower tier members of the peloton, and they’ve room to improve further if they didn’t have to spend time running and swimming.
But as mentioned above, the sheer financial disparity between the two sports surely means that if they had the capability we would not be having this conversation
Isn’t Wurf the top guy
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Jack from HTT either mentioned during a pod or posted it on IG that his coach said his last 20 min test was 508.
Not a chance in hell.
Indurain’ FTP was ~ 480 at the same weight, and let’s not kid ourselves about Banesto in 1990.
I got confirmation by a close source from him. Assuming the power meter is properly calibrated, it’s truly amazing and close to top WorldTour level guys, the “slight” difference being they can produce those watts after a hard stage and during a grand tour instead of a fresh test.
Often wondered how Ditlev would stack up in pro cycling (same goes for Taylor Knibb) seeing how they’re levels ahead of other strong cyclists in triathlon. Surely they must be better than plenty of mid to lower tier members of the peloton, and they’ve room to improve further if they didn’t have to spend time running and swimming.
But as mentioned above, the sheer financial disparity between the two sports surely means that if they had the capability we would not be having this conversation
there’s also a huge amount of skill involved in tri and road cycling. we usually under-weight that in conversations like this, but there are plenty of riders who do well with mediocre FTP, or athletes with huge VO2 max who don’t do as well.
the mental game, the tactics, handling skills, sweat rates, gut absorption, injury resistance . . . all that matters too.
Isn’t Wurf the top guy
Assuming he is (I actually think Ditlev, Laidlow and others are a bit stronger), Wurf has never won a single race as a professional cyclist either on the road or TT. I think Ditlev could work as a domestique in a Pro Tour team, but that’s a long way from taking the top dogs like Ganna or Remco. So probably makes sense for Ditlev to be one of the best triathletes and actually win races as he wouldn’t be achieving anywhere near the same results as a cyclist.
In response to the Indurain comment, despite the “90s lifestyle choices” in the pro peloton (and I am suspicious this isn’t over yet). The guy did some random university test back in 2012 years and despite carrying a few extra pounds, he still recorded a lab measured 450 W FTP without much training. So the guy definitely had some talent.
That puts his estimated FTP somewhere around 480W, and according to this PTO profile he weighs 79 Kg… that’s 6.1 W/Kg
I really don’t believe those numbers. That FTP would put him well over Bradley Wiggins on his world hour record. He’d be even close to Miguel Indurain, who is supposed to have had the highest FTP ever and that was in a cycling period in which weight wasn’t as determinant.
W/kg is not the only limitation. A 100kg cyclist would never get to 600w on a 6w/kg because physiologically there is a limitation in how much power a human can produce in an hour. Doctors and specialists say anything over 450-480w could be a sign of doping (as seen in the 90s and early 2000s).
If that FTP were true, his error would be to make a living being a triathlete. He’d be earning 10 or 20 times more towing the peloton. And maybe even having a crack at major TTs
This.
Yeah, we’ve had 20 min power described as FTP. We’ve have “heard from a guy.”
This is what we call internet Watts. Those are really impressive internet Watts, though.
They’re internet watts, and the “FTP is 95% of a 20 minute TT power” rule is an internet rule.
I have no doubt he can produce huge power. He is at least the top 3 cyclist in tri and probably the best. But, there are so many variables with measuring power. Furthermore, pros have an alterior motive when it comes to “Advertised FTP”. We have heard the story time and time again of this or that pro must be drafting because my power is so much higher than his/hers. I would wager a good amount of money that his FTP is much below 508 watts when measured with laboratory grade equipment.