Did Sam Long outride Appleton 3.9 w/kg vs 4.5 w/kg?

Someone correct me here, but looks like Long rode 3.9 w/kg (given he weighing in at 184ish lbs) I saw an IG post from Appleton saying he was riding 4.5 w/kg.?UNLESS he was joking of course…
Interesting nonetheless

Sam can’t be that heavy can be?

Sam can’t be that heavy can be?

he, Long, is 6’4" and up close, he’s skinny with just enough muscle to push 340w for two hours

I’ll assume Appo’s w/kg number was a joke. He can’t possibly be that much less aero that Sam Long…

During the broadcast live coverage, Lieto estimated that Long was holding 340w (spot on guess) and App was holding 315w… I’d bet that’s pretty accurate

Which one?

While those numbers may in fact be correct, until we reach a place where power meters all read accurately (and not just precisely), it’s very difficult to compare numbers between athletes (or perhaps more accurately, between their power meters).

315w (as an estimate) for 145lbs is about 4.75 w/kg.
340w at 184lbs is about 4 w/kg.

All those numbers line up.

W/kg seems meaningless when we W/CdA is what determines speed. Sure there’s a correlation from kg to CdA, but it’s not a great indicator for flat TTs

http://www.samgolong.com/about-sam-long-pro-triathlete.html

175pounds
Sam Long said he averaged 350w
divide by 79kg = 4.43w/kg
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https://youtu.be/p3DsVgz8t2s

This clip of Appleton and Amberger ribbing Long Aussie style is still funny
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Hello,

I rode 296w and weigh 66kg (145lbs). That equates to 4.48w/kg which i rounded up to 4.5 in my post (please forgive me).

My CDA is calculated at 0.19.

I am not sure of Sam’s weight and w/kg, but the course had plenty of flat fast sections where w/kg does not matter as much as raw power.

66 kegs? Whippet !

Hello,

I rode 296w and weigh 66kg (145lbs). That equates to 4.48w/kg which i rounded up to 4.5 in my post (please forgive me).

My CDA is calculated at 0.19.

I am not sure of Sam’s weight and w/kg, but the course had plenty of flat fast sections where w/kg does not matter as much as raw power.

this.

watts per kg is the biggest measure of skill to create power but doesn’t help anything on the flats were total power is king.

Aero is the same for nearly every top rider, unless they cut off their head or torso??? how committed are people.

watts per kg are the advantage for uphill riding. Boulder was a pancake.

Athletes should take that into perspective when selecting courses to race on well.

Good race Sam I enjoyed it.

Hello,

I rode 296w and weigh 66kg (145lbs). That equates to 4.48w/kg which i rounded up to 4.5 in my post (please forgive me).

My CDA is calculated at 0.19.

I am not sure of Sam’s weight and w/kg, but the course had plenty of flat fast sections where w/kg does not matter as much as raw power.

Thanks for your input. Good race.

Having lived and raced the Boulder IM course many times, it is certainly a course where local knowledge can help… at least for AG riders!

There are some rolling hills going North on 36 for instance that can make sense to power up and crest the hill with a lot of momentum, and several other places where a local might hang onto more speed than a visitor.

That may be immaterial to pro’s who have more power, better scouting and strategy… but my best cycling metrics all came from Boulder races.

Or as I like to think… the buckets of spaghetti that I fed Sam during high school XC season years ago provided the base that has led to his current success :wink:

Hello,

I rode 296w and weigh 66kg (145lbs). That equates to 4.48w/kg which i rounded up to 4.5 in my post (please forgive me).

My CDA is calculated at 0.19.

I am not sure of Sam’s weight and w/kg, but the course had plenty of flat fast sections where w/kg does not matter as much as raw power.

Great race Sam!

Hello,

I rode 296w and weigh 66kg (145lbs). That equates to 4.48w/kg which i rounded up to 4.5 in my post (please forgive me).

My CDA is calculated at 0.19.

I am not sure of Sam’s weight and w/kg, but the course had plenty of flat fast sections where w/kg does not matter as much as raw power.

Great race Sam!!

Hello,

I rode 296w and weigh 66kg (145lbs). That equates to 4.48w/kg which i rounded up to 4.5 in my post (please forgive me).

My CDA is calculated at 0.19.

I am not sure of Sam’s weight and w/kg, but the course had plenty of flat fast sections where w/kg does not matter as much as raw power.

Hi Sam are you down for the WCs? Those numbers will translate into a very nice bike leg at St George 👍🏾

Hi Adman,

Yes I will be there! Looking forward to redemption after my poor race there back in May.

While those numbers may in fact be correct, until we reach a place where power meters all read accurately (and not just precisely), it’s very difficult to compare numbers between athletes (or perhaps more accurately, between their power meters).

Do we not live in a world where DC rainmaker exists?

Hi Adman,

Yes I will be there! Looking forward to redemption after my poor race there back in May.

Hi Sam

Is the ideal scenario for you a situation similar to the 70.3 worlds in South Africa when a smaller group got away up the road on the swim/bike? I know the courses are pretty different but what are your thoughts regarding tactics on that race and how it relates to the upcoming race at St George?