Defect or normal? ENVE wheels

Question… I recently bought a pair of used wheels and found this. The wheels were purchased new, and not blems or seconds.

Seems like this is pretty common on ENVE wheels…

Defect or no??

http://donzo98.easycgi.com/TestImages/Defect.jpg

Could be a problem
The original owner could get a replacement
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Pictures often can’t capture everything that’s going on with the carbon, but it looks like a variation in the UD carbon weave and not something to worry about. Now having said that, if you feel uncomfortable, take it to ENVE retailer to be inspected.

Sounds like bollocks, is that a qualified reply?

You cant really crack carbon like that, so it is most likely just some extra strands that made it into the mold before the finish layer of UD.

nope. it isn’t.

Question is… Since they are used, should I just return them??? Not sure I should deal with it. The original owner has no problem taking them back.

If I bought them new… I’m not sure that wouldn’t return them.

Hmmm…

You cant really crack carbon like that, so it is most likely just some extra strands that made it into the mold before the finish layer of UD.

I’ve cracked two carbon rims exactly like that after hitting potholes, so you can definitely crack carbon vertically through the brake track…

The only thing you are dealing with is having an awesome set of wheels. Not sure that should qualify as returnable.

Remember the old Blackwell 100’s? They had hundreds of strands like that.

The layup of the Enve rims would prevent that in most cases, and in the cases it did not prevent it, the damage would be much more spectacular.

The original owner has no problem taking them back.

You answered your question there… get the original owner to get them inspected and you get a brand new pair in replacement…

The only thing you are dealing with is having an awesome set of wheels. Not sure that should qualify as returnable.

Remember the old Blackwell 100’s? They had hundreds of strands like that.

No… I don’t know anything about Blackwell 100’s.

http://oi51.tinypic.com/11hqnwk.jpg
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Defect or no??

http://donzo98.easycgi.com/TestImages/Defect.jpg

Does it radiate into the interior cavity? If you run your finger across the brake track where that line is, can you feel a seperation? How about stress the wheel by holding the rim in both hands and placing your knee on the opposing side of where the ‘defect’ is and apply a slight bit of pressure. If it is a crack, then the rim will flex and there will be noise, otherwise, mount wheel and go ride!

I just had a pair replaced and the new ones have similar shading like yours. FYI

Can you post a pic or two please??

Go around the rim gently tapping with a nickel. See if the sound changes in the vicinity of the blemish.

I built a Enve rear 9 and it had actual indentation lines running vertically. Most notably under the decals as you could see it more there with the gloss. Supposedly using that much carbon means that they won’t be “perfect”. And remember that they don’t paint their wheels, so you see stuff you probably wouldn’t on other brands. I did have them replace it, took a while as I had my builder tell them that I wanted one of the better ones they could find. Had no worry about structural issues, just wanted to have a good looking wheel for the amount of money I was spending.

All that being said, if you have the opportunity to buy or not, or have Enve look at replacement then that’s the way to go. Better safe than sorry. And Enve’s service is top notch. No way have you stay on a bad wheel and risk injury just to save a few bucks.

And I love my Enve’s.

The original owner has no problem taking them back.

You answered your question there… get the original owner to get them inspected and you get a brand new pair in replacement…

X2… Better be safe than sorry.

We are going into winter. Why worry about it. Just send them back and look for something else.

Unless you got such a smokin deal that you are willing to go for the cost of new front teeth if the wheel collapses.