Not sure if this has been brought on here before, but I was curious. What are the main benefits of using carbon deep dish wheels like Zipp? I tried a set on my Cervelo R3 and I didn’t like them. They felt heavy and were terrible in the wind and on climbs. They were a set from Giant that my buddy had.
A lot of the Triathlons I am doing next year take place in the Northeast on flat roads near the beach. Will they be useful on something like this?
Any help would be great. Thanks!
Not sure if this has been brought on here before, but I was curious. What are the main benefits of using carbon deep dish wheels like Zipp? I tried a set on my Cervelo R3 and I didn’t like them. They felt heavy and were terrible in the wind and on climbs. They were a set from Giant that my buddy had.
A lot of the Triathlons I am doing next year take place in the Northeast on flat roads near the beach. Will they be useful on something like this?
Any help would be great. Thanks!
You can feel a <1lb difference on a climb? Do you feel a difference when you don’t bring water?
Not sure if this has been brought on here before, but I was curious. What are the main benefits of using carbon deep dish wheels like Zipp? I tried a set on my Cervelo R3 and I didn’t like them. They felt heavy and were terrible in the wind and on climbs. They were a set from Giant that my buddy had.
A lot of the Triathlons I am doing next year take place in the Northeast on flat roads near the beach. Will they be useful on something like this?
Any help would be great. Thanks!
You can feel a <1lb difference on a climb? Do you feel a difference when you don’t bring water?
It is rotational mass so you can certainly feel a difference between a light set of wheels and a big deep aero pair, especially when you are getting them up to speed.
If its flat that means constant speed, so crosswind is your only real concern.
Not sure if this has been brought on here before, but I was curious. What are the main benefits of using carbon deep dish wheels like Zipp? I tried a set on my Cervelo R3 and I didn’t like them. They felt heavy and were terrible in the wind and on climbs. They were a set from Giant that my buddy had.
A lot of the Triathlons I am doing next year take place in the Northeast on flat roads near the beach. Will they be useful on something like this?
Any help would be great. Thanks!
You can feel a <1lb difference on a climb? Do you feel a difference when you don’t bring water?
It is rotational mass so you can certainly feel a difference between a light set of wheels and a big deep aero pair, especially when you are getting them up to speed.
If its flat that means constant speed, so crosswind is your only real concern.
The effect is minimal. (http://www.slowtwitch.com/Tech/Why_Wheel_Aerodynamics_Can_Outweigh_Wheel_Weight_and_Inertia_2106.html)
You’re far more likely to notice the sound resonance from deep wheels than the marginal increase in rotating mass.
It wasn’t a weight thing. It just didn’t feel as though the bike climbed as well with the wheels as it did without them. The crosswind was noticeable also. It was just a simple questioning asking advice from other riders.
Thanks for first being a jerk about it, and then second kind of helping answer the question providing scientific examples with a pie graph.
It wasn’t a weight thing. It just didn’t feel as though the bike climbed as well with the wheels as it did without them. The crosswind was noticeable also. It was just a simple questioning asking advice from other riders.
Thanks for first being a jerk about it, and then second kind of helping answer the question providing scientific examples with a pie graph.
Thanks for being delusional about your ability to objectively sense the work you’re actually doing. You and I both can’t feel the difference in the wheel weight in a blind test.
Not sure if this has been brought on here before, but I was curious. What are the main benefits of using carbon deep dish wheels like Zipp?
Nope, never seen this subject brought up on this forum before…
Not sure if this has been brought on here before, but I was curious. What are the main benefits of using carbon deep dish wheels like Zipp?
Nope, never seen this subject brought up on this forum before…
I think he’s talking about Chicago-style Deep Dish wheels. Thicker crust.
In that case, yes. Deeper crust=faster every time.
It wasn’t a weight thing. It just didn’t feel as though the bike climbed as well with the wheels as it did without them. The crosswind was noticeable also. It was just a simple questioning asking advice from other riders.
Thanks for first being a jerk about it, and then second kind of helping answer the question providing scientific examples with a pie graph.
Thanks for being delusional about your ability to objectively sense the work you’re actually doing. You and I both can’t feel the difference in the wheel weight in a blind test.
Wow, what a dickhead response! How about letting people give their opinions without being an asshole. I agree with the first poster. I can feel a big difference between heavy wheels (Flashpoint 60) and light ( Zipp 404 tubular)
Sure, and I can sense your chakra.
It wasn’t a weight thing. It just didn’t feel as though the bike climbed as well with the wheels as it did without them. The crosswind was noticeable also. It was just a simple questioning asking advice from other riders.
Thanks for first being a jerk about it, and then second kind of helping answer the question providing scientific examples with a pie graph.
He wasn’t being a jerk, he was being honest about it. It appears to me that you’re being closed minded.
When you ask a question you should just listen to the responses and say thank you. If you have a further question then ask more. Take in what everyone says and make your decision based on the evidence provided. Don’t go off and call someone a jerk when you are the one seeking information.
It’s OK not to agree.
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I felt he was being sarcastic in his response questioning if I feel a difference when I carry a water bottle, so I decided to be sarcastic right back.
Thanks for all the valuable responses. I will stick to what I have. Seems to be working just fine.
Sorry I don’t spend every day of my life on the computer or this forum in particular to know what all has been posted on here… LOL.
Sorry I don’t spend every day of my life on the computer or this forum in particular to know what all has been posted on here… LOL.
The snarkyness just comes out because regulars see the same types of questions and incorrect answers over and over. New users either don’t know how to use the search function, don’t know the forum has a search function, or refuse to use the search function because they are lazy.
Also, our Troll meters show 10 when a user shows up saying he rides a Cervelo R3, borrowed Zipps and didn’t like them because they were heavy. Not knowing that zipps or deep dish wheels provide an aerodynamic advantage on flat courses is suspicious.
FIGHT ME BRUH I’LL SMASH UR R3 CARBON INTO DIAMONDS THEN TAKE YA MUM ON A DATE AND PURPOSE TO HER SWEET SWEET BOOTY WIT UR R3. She thinks my zipps areo af loves how I’m saving 25 watts at 45kph. I’m putting Nutella on her booty at 3 watts/kg making negative drag bruh wut u doing wit ur rotational inertia bruh u even quantifiable bro. I’m rollin at yaw fuck wit it hella watts u best trade that r3 fo a p3 round this hood fuck yo grams counting I’m moving pounds bruh 112 at 30mph git wit it. Lmao no but for real you’ll make less drag with aero wheels don’t worry about the handling just go hard especially on flat you like barely accelerate in tri compared to crit so the weight difference is negligible like what is 200g that’s not even half a bottle of water I would get alu surface for braking.
In that case, yes. Deeper crust=faster every time.
LOL. How did this “deep dish” shit start? Dish has a specific meaning for rear bicycle wheels and it does not refer to rim depth.
Never leave us, bruh.
Well… I was being serious. This is the bike I competed on with last year. I am kicking the idea around of getting a full tri bike, but I wanted to see what my options were. I also never said I tried Zipp wheels. I said I tried “Deep Dish” wheels. I know that name is ridiculous, but I was just trying to reach common ground with my question.
I also didn’t know about the search option. I do now, thanks.
Take it easy folks… I am not a newb by any means. It was just a “newb” style question because I wanted some input from other riders, I don’t care if they are slower or faster than me.
You have to understand that most of us are cranky from cold weather, short days and too much time riding the trainer on the road to nowhere. If you think this was harsh, ask some political or gun questions in the Lavender Room.
In bike wheels, “dish” can refer to the asymmetric way the spokes are placed on the drive side of your rear wheel to make room for the cassette. In context, everyone knows what you mean.
Not sure if this has been brought on here before, but I was curious. What are the main benefits of using carbon deep dish wheels like Zipp? I tried a set on my Cervelo R3 and I didn’t like them. They felt heavy and were terrible in the wind and on climbs. They were a set from Giant that my buddy had.
A lot of the Triathlons I am doing next year take place in the Northeast on flat roads near the beach. Will they be useful on something like this?
Any help would be great. Thanks!
Yes