Seems like every time I turn on the news cyber security is a topic. I am contemplating taking a cyber security boot camp. I have looked into Northwestern, UW Madison, and Harvard.
So far I’m leaning towards Northwestern. They do not include a topic on developing software that is secure. They assured me that with my software background I would learn how to build secure software.
Checking in to see if you have suggestions.
how old are you? I have a friend who’s son joined an air national guard unit that specializes cybersecuirty - He went through boot camp, and afterwards they trained him to get his Security+ cert. He has more detailed training coming up, and he has his clearance. He’s getting paid to get trained. Wish i was younger so i could do this.
Northwestern - “powered by Trilogy education”
UWMadison - "This accelerated program is powered by ou"r partner, HackerU,
Couldn’t find Harvard’s cyber bootcamp webpage.
For NW and UWMadison - it looks like they are partnering with an outside vendor (Trilogy / HackerU) that is doing the training- you may want to look for other partners that might be cheaper. If you look on Trilogy’s website - they list schools like UC-Berkeley and UCLA. it’s similar with HackerU
Do these boot camps offer any type of certification track? If you want to demonstrate you’re coding securely you need to have some certs to back that up such as CERT, CASE, or CSSLP. IT seems like our developers have these or some form of alphabet soup.
I work in cybersecurity but not in coding or direct application development. My forte is physical security, vulnerability and compliance management, with a wee bit of code scanning added in for flavor.
What do you want to do with this?
Our security guy does not have a developer background and does no coding. One of our staff attorneys got his certification from Vanderbilt and left to go work in the cyber security field. He was very happy with the program.
I have a neighbor who’s a couple months into a bunch of Cisco cybersecurity courses. Seems happy with them, and high prospects for endless opportunities upon completion.
If you are doing this just to be marketable and make good money. It’s not a bad idea. A couple of things to think about. Those who work in the field will tell you to expect long hours and expect to be available 24x7. The pay is in line with that. There is definitely demand. And any big company will tell you, it is not if you will get hacked, but when. People lose jobs because of things outside their control. And it is as much about prevention and recovery. Very few companies want to pay the money to protect their systems adequately and it only takes one small mistake by someone (usually outside of IT) to really expose your network. It is a scary field. Glad I’m on the software side and not in the cyber/security side.
What do you want to do with this?
Our security guy does not have a developer background and does no coding. One of our staff attorneys got his certification from Vanderbilt and left to go work in the cyber security field. He was very happy with the program.
https://bootcamps.vanderbilt.edu/...BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
From that website - “Powered by Trilogy Education Services, a 2U inc. brand” – this is the same program that Northwestern was offering that the OP was looking at.
Does cyber security pay more than being an attorney???
Does cyber security pay more than being an attorney???
I am sure it pays more than a staff attorney in Nashville. Not to mention the opportunity for advancement. Staff attorney anywhere is pretty much stuck.
how old are you? I have a friend who’s son joined an air national guard unit that specializes cybersecuirty - He went through boot camp, and afterwards they trained him to get his Security+ cert. He has more detailed training coming up, and he has his clearance. He’s getting paid to get trained. Wish i was younger so i could do this.
Northwestern - “powered by Trilogy education”
UWMadison - "This accelerated program is powered by ou"r partner, HackerU,
Couldn’t find Harvard’s cyber bootcamp webpage.
For NW and UWMadison - it looks like they are partnering with an outside vendor (Trilogy / HackerU) that is doing the training- you may want to look for other partners that might be cheaper. If you look on Trilogy’s website - they list schools like UC-Berkeley and UCLA. it’s similar with HackerU
Good idea. I hadn’t thought of it.
I am a software engineer with 25 years experience. How’s that for avoiding giving my age.
Do these boot camps offer any type of certification track? If you want to demonstrate you’re coding securely you need to have some certs to back that up such as CERT, CASE, or CSSLP. IT seems like our developers have these or some form of alphabet soup.
I work in cybersecurity but not in coding or direct application development. My forte is physical security, vulnerability and compliance management, with a wee bit of code scanning added in for flavor.
Yes they do offer a certification tract. I am already certified as a CSQE through ASQ. I’m glad you brought this up. I have been trying to figure out what certification is valuable. Like through ASQ. But they do not offer a cyber security certification. Can you recommend a certification body?
I haven’t been able to pin point the best one.
What do you want to do with this?
Our security guy does not have a developer background and does no coding. One of our staff attorneys got his certification from Vanderbilt and left to go work in the cyber security field. He was very happy with the program.
As a software engineer I would like to know how to build secure software, and have a certification for it.
I have a neighbor who’s a couple months into a bunch of Cisco cybersecurity courses. Seems happy with them, and high prospects for endless opportunities upon completion.
Good to know.
If you are doing this just to be marketable and make good money. It’s not a bad idea. A couple of things to think about. Those who work in the field will tell you to expect long hours and expect to be available 24x7. The pay is in line with that. There is definitely demand. And any big company will tell you, it is not if you will get hacked, but when. People lose jobs because of things outside their control. And it is as much about prevention and recovery. Very few companies want to pay the money to protect their systems adequately and it only takes one small mistake by someone (usually outside of IT) to really expose your network. It is a scary field. Glad I’m on the software side and not in the cyber/security side.
Funny you should mention being on the software side and not the cyber/security side. This is why I am interested in training on cyber security. I would like to know best practices on developing secure software.
What do you want to do with this?
Our security guy does not have a developer background and does no coding. One of our staff attorneys got his certification from Vanderbilt and left to go work in the cyber security field. He was very happy with the program.
As a software engineer I would like to know how to build secure software, and have a certification for it.
Google turned up these:
https://www.isc2.org/Certifications/CSSLP
https://www.eccouncil.org/programs/application-security-training/
https://www.sans.org/cyber-security-courses/defending-web-applications-security-essentials/
Also some info from redhat and IBM
https://www.coursera.org/courses?query=application%20security
You might get better responses if you posted this question to reddit or stackoverflow
Let us know what you end up doing
What do you want to do with this?
Our security guy does not have a developer background and does no coding. One of our staff attorneys got his certification from Vanderbilt and left to go work in the cyber security field. He was very happy with the program.
As a software engineer I would like to know how to build secure software, and have a certification for it.
Google turned up these:
https://www.isc2.org/Certifications/CSSLP
https://www.eccouncil.org/programs/application-security-training/
https://www.sans.org/cyber-security-courses/defending-web-applications-security-essentials/
Also some info from redhat and IBM
https://www.coursera.org/courses?query=application%20security
You might get better responses if you posted this question to reddit or stackoverflow
Let us know what you end up doing
Thank you. I trust slowtwitch over reddit.
Do these boot camps offer any type of certification track? If you want to demonstrate you’re coding securely you need to have some certs to back that up such as CERT, CASE, or CSSLP. IT seems like our developers have these or some form of alphabet soup.
I work in cybersecurity but not in coding or direct application development. My forte is physical security, vulnerability and compliance management, with a wee bit of code scanning added in for flavor.
Yes they do offer a certification tract. I am already certified as a CSQE through ASQ. I’m glad you brought this up. I have been trying to figure out what certification is valuable. Like through ASQ. But they do not offer a cyber security certification. Can you recommend a certification body?
I haven’t been able to pin point the best one.
CSSLP through ISC2 is one I hear talked about, don’t know much about it myself.