So splain to me why people use Deep carbon wheels for CX racing?
Smaller hole in the middle means less mud gathers?
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Deep usually means Zipp 303 at most. Besides limited aero utilization, folks contend wheels roll faster through sand & mud - the deeper v-shaped rim limits mud/sand accumulation.
As Bushman mentioned the deep dish wheels help guide through mud and sand. The lower the rim profile, the more the sand/mud will ‘collapse’ on the rim and make it harder to get through.
As Bushman mentioned the deep dish wheels help guide through mud and sand. The lower the rim profile, the more the sand/mud will ‘collapse’ on the rim and make it harder to get through.
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It also helps the wheel act as a rudder to track better through mud/sand.
As Bushman mentioned the deep dish wheels help guide through mud and sand. The lower the rim profile, the more the sand/mud will ‘collapse’ on the rim and make it harder to get through.
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It also helps the wheel act as a rudder to track better through mud/sand.
FALSE.
The ONLY benefit of deep dish rims is the reduction in the build-up of mud on the bike during slop conditions. The “act as a rudder to track better through mud/sand” effect has been dis-proven.
As Bushman mentioned the deep dish wheels help guide through mud and sand. The lower the rim profile, the more the sand/mud will ‘collapse’ on the rim and make it harder to get through.
+1
It also helps the wheel act as a rudder to track better through mud/sand.
FALSE.
The ONLY benefit of deep dish rims is the reduction in the build-up of mud on the bike during slop conditions. The “act as a rudder to track better through mud/sand” effect has been dis-proven.
Yeah there was a good article in CX magazine an issue or so ago that described some tests they performed. I think that the deeper wheels actually performed the same as or worse than the non-deep rims in a few of their tests.
I am glad you posted that before me, I would have been less nice in my response.
I think most people do it for vanity. Nothing wrong with that if you have the money.
There are many myths in sport. The other that drives me crazy in CX is sizing down for the frame…UGH!!!
The other that drives me crazy in CX is sizing down for the frame…
Not necessarily a myth - depends on manufacturer. For apples/apples comparisons, it’s best to use actual frame dimensions and measurements and go with what works…no matter the manufacturer “size” designation.
Add: With regard to wheels…for most people, rim depth make little difference. The desire to use tubulars, however, may determine choice of rims (depth, etc.).
that’s not the ONLY benefit…
I can’t speak for all deep carbon rims but for those I have experience with (Zipp & fsa), these rims/wheels are much stiffer. That is why I won’t run anything else. Also, depending on the build, they can be lighter.
Correct, funnily on another thread I said the same thing.
Thanks for the correction…
Yes, yet you go onto any forum or LBS and the advice is to size down…whatever that means
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deep dish is for muddy terrains. If no mud then use boxed section or just shallow rims.
Yeah there was a good article in CX magazine an issue or so ago that described some tests they performed. I think that the deeper wheels actually performed the same as or worse than the non-deep rims in a few of their tests.
I read that article as well. I found the difference in accumulation of 2 pounds per wheel a deal maker for me. That’s A LOT to have on the outside of a wheel. The other characteristics didn’t seem as important to me. I find my MTB experience to be my biggest plus for not getting into the mud in the first place. Wheels to be less important. The only important thing wheel-wise for me is to have two pairs at least, that I can swap out fast. So my wheel budget tends to favor quantity.
that’s not the ONLY benefit…
I can’t speak for all deep carbon rims but for those I have experience with (Zipp & fsa), these rims/wheels are much stiffer. That is why I won’t run anything else. Also, depending on the build, they can be lighter.
Much stiffer than what?
Are you saying that you put out such massive power that a 32 spoke rim is not stiff enough for you, or are you saying Zipp and FSA carbon wheels are stiffer than other brands of carbon wheels?