Just watched the 2017 games documentary on netflix - 2 hours long. The first event was run (1.5mi) -swim (500m) -run (1.5 run) , with winners putting down 28 min. I wonder with our big anti crossfit egos how many of use can do that time - how much better? I can probably hit 28 min, but when I find out all the other feats these athletes can do, I feel useless.
Also they had a cyclocross event, but that kind of event is hard to compare, im pretty sure their efforts were good too.
so …
is crossfit a WADA signatory yet?
The best itu guys would do it in less than 20 minutes if you want to compare best to best. Me, I could probably do less than 25 and I’m nobody special.
so …
is crossfit a WADA signatory yet?
dont know, if you watch the documentary they mention PEDs multiple times, and even DQ the 3rd place guy
Haven’t seen the documentary but did see a replay of the event on ESPN or something awhile back. I thought they all looked really awkward running and biking - definitely like fish out of water. Looked like the were on flat bar Trek’s for the “cyclocross†part.
If the course was accurately measured i figure it take me maybe 24-25 minutes (and I’m very much a MOP swimmer). As for the bike part, they’d all get dropped if the back of of a cat 4/5 race pretty quickly.
But what do you expect when a group of people who focus on fast twitch muscles and strength try and do something based on slowtwitch muscles, endurance, and requiring different skills. It would be equally awkward if ironman decided to have us do snatches in T1. Not sure why CrossFit is trying to foray into the tri diciplines
so …
is crossfit a WADA signatory yet?
dont know, if you watch the documentary they mention PEDs multiple times, and even DQ the 3rd place guy
I was being a jerk; the answer is no.
Not sure why CrossFit is trying to foray into the tri diciplines
Simple. The games are now in Madison, Wisconsin which is a big Tri market in the midwest and Trek Bicycles is just outside of the area. Lake access right by their event location and you have the recipe for an event that appeals to the locals. Boost interest, attendance, participation and gives local companies a way to market their product. I think they made the swim/run event open to anyone as well.
I believe they estimated the attendance over the weekend last year around 30-40k not sure how many participated in the open event.
ITU guys would be a lot faster than that. I could do sub 20 i bet and I’m certainly nowhere near them.
I watched part of the documentary as well, and have gotten to the point where 3rd place was DQ’d. I won’t lie I only watched it because the preview showed the athletes with swim goggles on.
The cyclocross event was a great add for them, and applaud the organizers for stepping outside of the box (pun intended).
As far as the run - swim - run, I wish they had more footage of the swimming, I would of enjoyed the documentary quite a bit more.
ITU guys would be a lot faster than that. I could do sub 20 i bet and I’m certainly nowhere near them.
What would your splits be? How long are you giving yourself for transitions? If you’re running 4:50s, and doing 30 seconds of transitions, that means you’ll be banging out a 4:59 on that 500 meter swim… A 5 flat for the swim (in meters) probably works out to something like a 4:30 for yards? That’s pretty aggressive on the swim! Maybe you’re hitting 4:40’s on the run and doing a 5:30 on the swim? I’m definitely interested in hearing the details!
Admittedly, that won’t put you at the top of the triathlon pyramid, but that’s certainly going to put you in some pretty good company among professional triathletes and you’ll probably be within 1.5 minutes of the fastest guys (I’m guessing the absolute fastest guys can chain together 4:20’s with a 5 flat… or maybe that kid from England who crushed his 10K can put together 3 4:05’s and then do a 5:15 to squeeze under 18:30?).
Just watched the 2017 games documentary on netflix - 2 hours long. The first event was run (1.5mi) -swim (500m) -run (1.5 run) , with winners putting down 28 min. I wonder with our big anti crossfit egos how many of use can do that time - how much better? I can probably hit 28 min, but when I find out all the other feats these athletes can do, I feel useless.
Also they had a cyclocross event, but that kind of event is hard to compare, im pretty sure their efforts were good too.
What was it called? On Australian Netflix they have a couple of Crossfit docos. I watched them because I had no idea about the sports. I thought it was aerobics or something. It could be kinda cool if they didn’t have so much emphaisis on weights. I thought I saw the one with the R/S/R and there wasn’t one single swimmer there. Some were water-polo swimming others were swinging these massive arms slowly through the water getting nowhere. A few solid runners, but I’d imagine most would struggle to crack 20mins for 5km.
28mins isn’t quick, but then they have to do all sorts of other shit. I’d come in around 24, assuming swim was flat and measured correctly. But then I’m 158 lbs, so as soon as they handed me a dumbbell I’d fold like a cheap suitcase.
I did chortle when I see these guys labelled as “fittest in the world”. The reality is, they wouldn’t podium in my local sprint for M60-64.
ITU guys would be a lot faster than that. I could do sub 20 i bet and I’m certainly nowhere near them.
What would your splits be? How long are you giving yourself for transitions? If you’re running 4:50s, and doing 30 seconds of transitions, that means you’ll be banging out a 4:59 on that 500 meter swim… A 5 flat for the swim (in meters) probably works out to something like a 4:30 for yards? That’s pretty aggressive on the swim! Maybe you’re hitting 4:40’s on the run and doing a 5:30 on the swim? I’m definitely interested in hearing the details!
Admittedly, that won’t put you at the top of the triathlon pyramid, but that’s certainly going to put you in some pretty good company among professional triathletes and you’ll probably be within 1.5 minutes of the fastest guys (I’m guessing the absolute fastest guys can chain together 4:20’s with a 5 flat… or maybe that kid from England who crushed his 10K can put together 3 4:05’s and then do a 5:15 to squeeze under 18:30?).
I’m interested as well
CrossFit…uhg
I thought we were a arrogant group. They take it to a whole new level.
ITU guys would be a lot faster than that. I could do sub 20 i bet and I’m certainly nowhere near them.
What would your splits be? How long are you giving yourself for transitions? If you’re running 4:50s, and doing 30 seconds of transitions, that means you’ll be banging out a 4:59 on that 500 meter swim… A 5 flat for the swim (in meters) probably works out to something like a 4:30 for yards? That’s pretty aggressive on the swim! Maybe you’re hitting 4:40’s on the run and doing a 5:30 on the swim? I’m definitely interested in hearing the details!
Admittedly, that won’t put you at the top of the triathlon pyramid, but that’s certainly going to put you in some pretty good company among professional triathletes and you’ll probably be within 1.5 minutes of the fastest guys (I’m guessing the absolute fastest guys can chain together 4:20’s with a 5 flat… or maybe that kid from England who crushed his 10K can put together 3 4:05’s and then do a 5:15 to squeeze under 18:30?).
I’m interested as well
I’m basing this on what top guys in my ag (45-49) do in sprints, duathlons and training e.g 3km TTs, 400m TTs etc
run 1 - 2.4km = 7.30
swim 500m = 7.00
run 2 - 2.4km = 7.45
22.15 + 1min for T1/T2 = 23.15. I’d be about 1 min slower.
Sub 20 is flying. A 5min/500m is close to Olympic standard.
ITU guys would be a lot faster than that. I could do sub 20 i bet and I’m certainly nowhere near them.
What would your splits be? How long are you giving yourself for transitions? If you’re running 4:50s, and doing 30 seconds of transitions, that means you’ll be banging out a 4:59 on that 500 meter swim… A 5 flat for the swim (in meters) probably works out to something like a 4:30 for yards? That’s pretty aggressive on the swim! Maybe you’re hitting 4:40’s on the run and doing a 5:30 on the swim? I’m definitely interested in hearing the details!
Admittedly, that won’t put you at the top of the triathlon pyramid, but that’s certainly going to put you in some pretty good company among professional triathletes and you’ll probably be within 1.5 minutes of the fastest guys (I’m guessing the absolute fastest guys can chain together 4:20’s with a 5 flat… or maybe that kid from England who crushed his 10K can put together 3 4:05’s and then do a 5:15 to squeeze under 18:30?).
I’m interested as well
Looking at the Commonwealth Games triathlon results from this year. The team sprint where each member swam 250m and ran 1.5km, the times for the Cross Games RSR would be:
R1 6.50
S 5.30
R2 6.50
T1/2 30
Total = 19.50
For me the distances are the issue here.
1.5 miles I a joke
500 meters is a joke…look at ITU…anyone can fake it for the first lap of the olympic swim. The second lap is what gets people.
Lets make them go:
1.55 (still a joke)
750 (I bet those swim times drop)
1.55 (yep, a joke)
My brother doesn’t crosscut…but he works out like he does. For him, hopping on the treadmill and slamming 6 min miles and getting off and doing pull-ups, push-ups, and squats ain’t no thing. He is also fit enough to do pretty well in a 10k, I would think. But extend him to 13.1…thats when he will start to have issues.
For me the distances are the issue here.
1.5 miles I a joke
500 meters is a joke…look at ITU…anyone can fake it for the first lap of the olympic swim. The second lap is what gets people.
Lets make them go:
1.55 (still a joke)
750 (I bet those swim times drop)
1.55 (yep, a joke)
My brother doesn’t crosscut…but he works out like he does. For him, hopping on the treadmill and slamming 6 min miles and getting off and doing pull-ups, push-ups, and squats ain’t no thing. He is also fit enough to do pretty well in a 10k, I would think. But extend him to 13.1…thats when he will start to have issues.
Yep, but they also do this with about 9 other events over 3 days.
Also CrossFit understands what spectators want to see and how long they can pay attention, the longer you do steady state cardio the more people you lose in your audience.
The games are part sport and part entertainment. They do well exposing a sport without boring the audience.
For me the distances are the issue here.
1.5 miles I a joke
500 meters is a joke…look at ITU…anyone can fake it for the first lap of the olympic swim. The second lap is what gets people.
Lets make them go:
1.55 (still a joke)
750 (I bet those swim times drop)
1.55 (yep, a joke)
My brother doesn’t crosscut…but he works out like he does. For him, hopping on the treadmill and slamming 6 min miles and getting off and doing pull-ups, push-ups, and squats ain’t no thing. He is also fit enough to do pretty well in a 10k, I would think. But extend him to 13.1…thats when he will start to have issues.
Yep, but they also do this with about 9 other events over 3 days.
Also CrossFit understands what spectators want to see and how long they can pay attention, the longer you do steady state cardio the more people you lose in your audience.
The games are part sport and part entertainment. They do well exposing a sport without boring the audience.
As a sport it has potential. But for me to be interested, they’d have to ditch a lot of the weightlifting shit. It’s just not interesting at all. I haven’t watched CF much, but it just seems to be a bunch of weightlifters doing weightlifting stuff with the occasional bit of reluctant running.
ITU guys would be a lot faster than that. I could do sub 20 i bet and I’m certainly nowhere near them.
What would your splits be? How long are you giving yourself for transitions? If you’re running 4:50s, and doing 30 seconds of transitions, that means you’ll be banging out a 4:59 on that 500 meter swim… A 5 flat for the swim (in meters) probably works out to something like a 4:30 for yards? That’s pretty aggressive on the swim! Maybe you’re hitting 4:40’s on the run and doing a 5:30 on the swim? I’m definitely interested in hearing the details!
Admittedly, that won’t put you at the top of the triathlon pyramid, but that’s certainly going to put you in some pretty good company among professional triathletes and you’ll probably be within 1.5 minutes of the fastest guys (I’m guessing the absolute fastest guys can chain together 4:20’s with a 5 flat… or maybe that kid from England who crushed his 10K can put together 3 4:05’s and then do a 5:15 to squeeze under 18:30?).
I’m interested as well
Looking at the Commonwealth Games triathlon results from this year. The team sprint where each member swam 250m and ran 1.5km, the times for the Cross Games RSR would be:
R1 6.50
S 5.30
R2 6.50
T1/2 30
Total = 19.50
Andy Potts went 3:58 for 400 long course meters in the '96 Oly Trials, so at that time as a “pure swimmer” he prob could’ve gone 5:00 for 500 m in the pool; in OW, he would’ve been closer to 5:10, e.g. losing about 1 sec per turn. So, maybe, maybe he could go 5:30 for 500 m in OW now, slower b/c he no longer swims 100,000 m/wk. I’d say 5:30 would be the fastest that any tri person could do the 500 m, espec since it is after a fast 2.4 K run. Also, i think you’re being overly generous saying the 2nd run will be same pace as 1st run, b/c running after a hard swim is pretty hard. Further, i think only 30 sec for the two trans is a bit low, but potentially doable if they have a very short dist between the runs and the swim. In sum, i think that, if they actually held this as a sanctioned event in the Oly, with the swim in the pool, i think the WR would be maybe 19:57, and breaking 20 would be very rare.
ITU guys would be a lot faster than that. I could do sub 20 i bet and I’m certainly nowhere near them.
What would your splits be? How long are you giving yourself for transitions? If you’re running 4:50s, and doing 30 seconds of transitions, that means you’ll be banging out a 4:59 on that 500 meter swim… A 5 flat for the swim (in meters) probably works out to something like a 4:30 for yards? That’s pretty aggressive on the swim! Maybe you’re hitting 4:40’s on the run and doing a 5:30 on the swim? I’m definitely interested in hearing the details!
Admittedly, that won’t put you at the top of the triathlon pyramid, but that’s certainly going to put you in some pretty good company among professional triathletes and you’ll probably be within 1.5 minutes of the fastest guys (I’m guessing the absolute fastest guys can chain together 4:20’s with a 5 flat… or maybe that kid from England who crushed his 10K can put together 3 4:05’s and then do a 5:15 to squeeze under 18:30?).
I’m interested as well
Looking at the Commonwealth Games triathlon results from this year. The team sprint where each member swam 250m and ran 1.5km, the times for the Cross Games RSR would be:
R1 6.50
S 5.30
R2 6.50
T1/2 30
Total = 19.50
Andy Potts went 3:58 for 400 long course meters in the '96 Oly Trials, so at that time as a “pure swimmer” he prob could’ve gone 5:00 for 500 m in the pool; in OW, he would’ve been closer to 5:10, e.g. losing about 1 sec per turn. So, maybe, maybe he could go 5:30 for 500 m in OW now, slower b/c he no longer swims 100,000 m/wk. I’d say 5:30 would be the fastest that any tri person could do the 500 m, espec since it is after a fast 2.4 K run. Also, i think you’re being overly generous saying the 2nd run will be same pace as 1st run, b/c running after a hard swim is pretty hard. Further, i think only 30 sec for the two trans is a bit low, but potentially doable if they have a very short dist between the runs and the swim. In sum, i think that, if they actually held this as a sanctioned event in the Oly, with the swim in the pool, i think the WR would be maybe 19:57, and breaking 20 would be very rare.
5.30/500m for the swim seems about right. Henri Schoeman, who won gold at the Commonwealth games swam the 750m at a pace that would have got 5.45 for 500m. His run was 15min for 5km.