Could caffeine possibly explain a 15 sec/mile pace increase?

I had an unbelievable run today, and the only variable is I had a granita this morning. I almost never drink coffee and I definetely get high from the caffeine.

I ran 3 hard miles in the middle of an 8 mile run 15 seconds/mile faster than I’ve ever done before. I used the same course, same mile markers, HR was same, training hasn’t changed significantly in months. I’ve been running for 15 years, so its not like I had a fitness breakthrough as a newbie might expect. Only differnce I can point to is the granita. If so, holy cow, that caffeine is freakin’ rocket fuel!

Has anyone else experienced similar results?

Sure…it’s possible!

Yes, I’d say it was the caffeine. It is powerful stuff, especially if you don’t use it often. If I were you, resist relying on it as many do, and save it for your A races. Of course, you should experiment at times to see when it works best, etc. Powergels have some w/ caffeine and “double” caffeine, sodas have different amounts, and of course different types of coffee. You will have an advantage if you don’t “dull” your response to it by ingesting frequently. Some may say it is a duretic but there is mounting evidence that exercise attenuates the duretic affect. Again, some experimentation with your body will do.

Impossible. 15 seconds per mile is outrageously huge to attribute to caffeine only :slight_smile: You must have been dogging it previously :slight_smile:

yeah it was. i only drink coffe 2X/wk before my key workouts. it gives me something to look forward to and i still get the performance high. i had it this morning as a matter of fact before my 1:45 run.
be warned though, it also makes you go to the bathroom something fierce so make sure your set before you leave the house. also, as someone else already stated, if you drink it every day you lose the benefit.

Very possible. If you don’t use it regularly that benefit will be there when you need it. Become dependent on it and the effects will wane.

RB, I’ve heard some reports about the diuretic effect of caffeine being blunted during exercise, too. Think this might make the caffeine stick around in your system longer? I don’t know how caffeine is metabolized and excreted…other than I assume some is lost in the urine.

Damn skippy. I used to drink 3 cups a day, before I got pregnant, then I switched to decaf. That was nearly 2 years ago. When I have a coffee before a XC race, I am on the podium. When I don’t, I might be… I still drink only decaf on a regular basis, and have full-caff before a race or hard training session. But before I switched to decaf, there was no noticeable difference re: caffeine intake - my system had adapted to it.

I’m not really sure why but I dug this up:

The diuretic effect of coffee was also evaluated in previous studies which Dr. Armstrong reviewed. The mild diuretic effect in coffee, tea and soda stems from their active agents, classified as methylxanthines. Dr. Armstrong explained, “The caffeine in coffee, tea, and soft drinks is 1,3,7-trimethylxanthine. Tea contains theophylline – 1,3-dimethylxanthine. Theobromine is found in tea, chocolate and cocoa as 3,7-dimethylxanthine. All three compounds are central nervous system and cardiac stimulants, as well as mild diuretics in some situations.

Both serious athletes and weekend athletes consume a number of beverages that, when taken in large volume, have a diuretic effect. It is interesting to note that researchers have shown that fluid-electrolyte replacement beverages have diuretic activity, and that even water is a diuretic. At less than 300 mg a day, the diuretic activity of caffeine is similar to that of water.

Dr. Armstrong noted that, “…virtually no evidence exists in the scientific literature that caffeine exaggerates dehydration and electrolyte loss to the point that it impairs exercise performance.” He told the science writers that neither athletes nor recreational enthusiasts will incur detrimental fluid-electrolyte imbalances if they drink caffeinated beverages in moderation and eat a well-balanced diet.

In addition to performing the review of other investigators’ work mentioned above, Dr. Armstrong discussed his own recently completed research, presented in the paper, *Fluid-electrolyte and renal indices of hydration during eleven days of controlled caffeine consumption (in review). *

He told the science writers, “Our recent investigation determined if three levels of controlled caffeine consumption affected fluid-electrolyte balance and renal function differently. Fifty-nine active males (mean + SD; age, 21.6 + 3.3 y) consumed 3 mg caffeine· kg-1·d-1 on days 1-6 (equilibration phase). On days 7-11 (treatment phase), subjects consumed either 0 mg (C0; placebo; n=20), 3 mg (C3; n=20), or 6 mg (C6; n=19) caffeine/kg body weight/day in capsules; no other dietary caffeine intake was allowed. The subjects maintained detailed records of food and fluid intake.”

Dr. Armstrong noted, “There were no significant differences between groups C0, C3 and C6 (P>0.05) for any of the hydration-relevant variables, including urine volume.”

He concluded, “We found no evidence of acute or chronic dehydration in C3 or C6 during 11 days of controlled caffeine consumption. Our findings question the widely accepted notion that caffeine acts chronically as a diuretic.“

Thanks. I remember that caffeine has a lesser diuretic effect than Theophylline or theobromine, as well as less cardiac effect. BUT, caffeine has a higher CNS effect than the other two. After thinking about it, I think the end metabolites from it’s breakdown are l-methyluric acid and other similar uric acid derivatives. It seems that the “normal” decrease in glomerular filtration rate during hard exercise probably accounts for less dehydration than one would expect from a dose of caffeine. Anyway, to get back on topic, just make sure you try this in training, because the big side effect that many people get is stimulation of your gut…and diarrhea is no fun on a long run!

A few months ago, there was this very cool documentary on CBC where a group of about 30 young very fit men were tracked over 6 weeks of exercise-driven development. They were tested at the start (100m dash, 5k run, shotput, leg press, bench press, and a few others) of the 6 weeks. Then they were divided into 3 groups: one group that received steroid injections, one group that received a placebo, and one smaller group that tried other “stimulants” including creatine, caffeine and blood products of some sort. After 6 weeks of this, they were retested. Of course the monkeys on the juice kicked butt (i.e.: most improvement) on the 100m dash, the shotput, the leg and bench press… but the person who did the best (i.e.: most improvement) on the 5k run was the fellow who was using caffeine as his stimulant. Granted his dose was crazy high, something like the equivalent of 10 cups of coffee. But you get the jist.

skip the coffee and just pop a few viveran’s a couple of hours before a big race.

Doper!!!